I should probably try to explain (again, I think, so sorry if this is a duplicate) what "work" means in the particular context that OL has chosen. It comes from FRBR [1]. The Work "record" should represent the original publication and all of its versions. So a translation of "Lord of the Rings" should be connected to the Work record for "Lord of the Rings", not a separate work record for the translation. And thus the works of Thomas Mann have a (or should have a) single work record for the original, under which you will see editions, some of which are translations:
http://openlibrary.org/works/OL16246083W/Tod_in_Venedig This is an international library practice, and I'm sure you can see that it creates some difficulties for users who search in one language and then see a work in a language that they do not understand. But this is the current standard. I'm hoping that it will in the future become easy for a user to indicate one or more language choices and to see the work titles in those languages in the short display, with the rest available elsewhere on the screen. kc [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FRBR On 5/24/12 10:22 AM, Ben Companjen wrote: > Hi Pascal, > > That is great! Linking to Open Library makes Open Library more visible > in the Linked Data world, I guess. > > I read your blog post, and would like to raise a couple of questions with you. > First of all: where are the links? I see no link to the OL website (or > a Work URI) on the page that is said to be an example... > > Did you only link to Works, or to Editions too? ISBNs are associated > with Editions, so I'd expect that would be the first stop. Editions > contain TOCs too, Works don't. Or are there too many Editions with the > same ISBN? > > And regarding your remarkable example: that German version of Lord of > the Rings should not be linked to a German work, but to The One Work > called "The Lord of the Rings" (I consider the separate publications > of the three parts one work each). The German work is a duplicate. > I recently published [1] a list of works that appear to be duplicates > (based on title, subtitle and author) which unfortunately showed that > a lot of cleaning up of edition-less works and duplicate works has to > be done. > That brings up another question: will you do the linking process again > in the future? > I imagine that eventually many works (and authors, and probably > editions too) will be merged so that the Work URI you get back (in the > Edition data) when you lookup the same ISBN again may change in the > future. I don't think it will be a problem to have old URIs in your > data, as they will redirect to the new URI(s) when you look them up. > However, if you leave the old URIs in your dataset, you don't know for > sure how many distinct works are linked. And since Open Library data > changes regularly anyway, I don't suppose this was an one-time only > experiment? > > Is the code you used to convert the datadump to RDF available online > (and is it Free software)? Since my proposed changes to OL's "native" > RDF output [2] haven't been accepted yet, perhaps other approaches can > be promoted somehow. Talis's approach works well, but I'm interested > to see others too. > > Ben > > [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00613.html > [2] https://github.com/internetarchive/openlibrary/pull/136 (comments > still welcome, naturally) > > On 23 May 2012 15:51, Pascal Christoph<[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi *, >> >> today we achieved to link 1.2 M lobid.org resources to Open Library work >> resources, simply using isbn 10. >> It seems that no commonly used identifier (that would be: viaf or GND or ... >> and not an extra minted openlibrary identifier[1]) for creators in ol is >> given. >> Identifier (among other things) help to disambiguate data so if you want to >> you >> can enrich your data using our newly generated links. How to do that and a >> little bit more of background at our blog: >> >> https://wiki1.hbz-nrw.de/display/SEM/2012/05/23/1.2+M+links+to+Open+Library >> >> Yes, and let me say "thank you" for your amazing work - this is just one more >> fine example of what is achivable with LOD! >> >> -o >> >> [1]it may be that there is already a concordance out there between i.e. viaf >> and ol-Person-URIs, I don't know , just saw whats already there in the RDF >> >> -- >> Pascal Christoph >> - Linked Open Data: http://lobid.org/ - >> hbz - Hochschulbibliothekszentrum NRW >> Telefon +49-221-40075-139 >> http://www.hbz-nrw.de/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Ol-tech mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > Ol-tech mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to > [email protected] > -- Karen Coyle [email protected] http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet _______________________________________________ Ol-tech mailing list [email protected] http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [email protected]
