I can explain a couple of these: On 8/18/12 12:15 AM, Ben Companjen wrote:
> > in Edition: > - full title; how does this relate to title? I'd need to see a few of these to confirm this, but I believe that this relates to the need title_prefix, and would be the title without the title prefix removed. > - name; are these 9 records that used to be Authors (which have name fields)? no idea > - work_title / work_titles; why would we use these when there is the > title in Work? Because they come in on library records, and it is probably a good idea to keep them as a way to re-cluster editions into works. These are needed for editions where the edition title \= work title, as in translations. Also, unless OL always exports the work title with an edition, that information will be lost for anyone downloading an edition record if it is removed from the edition record. In general, I see an advantage to keeping such fields in place as long as editions can be downloaded separately from works. > - title_prefix; is this being used? If so, why is there no > corresponding title_prefix in Work? In the original MARC records there is a way to indicate a "non-sort" part of the title, using numbers. So: non-sort=4 title=The catcher in the rye. This means that you begin a title sort on "catcher" not "The ". Because the first records being processed came in as MARC records, there was an attempt to deal with this. By the time that the work records were being developed (which was a couple of years into the project), OL had given up on trying to manage this sorting issue. So my guess is that there are many records that still have this in them. For future applications it may not be such a bad idea to have captured the non-sort information that came in on the original records. But it isn't being used in OL today because OL does not present sorted displays. Ben, do you know if these fields are exported by the API? I looked for examples but couldn't find them, however I was just looking at edit displays, and these fields may not be shown in those. If you have examples, then we could confirm if my memory is correct. kc p.s. the translated title in Works, I believe, is due to a desire on the part of one of the developers to allow folks to translate titles into different languages, even if the book itself has not been translated. It obviously hasn't been advertised, so it hasn't been used. > > Ben > > On 18 August 2012 06:25, Karen Coyle <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> On 8/17/12 12:31 PM, Ben Companjen wrote: >> >>> >>> Works have these fields with corresponding number of appearances at >>> the end of July 2012: >>> title, 15560144 >>> other_titles, 1 >>> translated_titles, 4 >>> subtitle, 578433 >>> >>> Editions: >>> title, 24841618 >>> subtitle, 9809990 >>> other_titles, 2225897 >>> full_title, 521383 >>> name, 9 >>> work_titles, 493101 >>> work_title, 261511 >>> translation_of, 2739 >>> title_prefix, 2945495 >>> >>> title and subtitle speak for themselves, other_titles and >>> translation_of are available in the edit form in librarian mode, but >>> the others seem relics from previous system designs. Can anyone >>> explain those? Are they used anywhere? Or can they safely be deleted? >> >> Ben, which are you thinking are left-overs? The only one that seems odd >> to me is "name." >> >> kc >> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Ben >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ol-tech mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> >> >> -- >> Karen Coyle >> [email protected] http://kcoyle.net >> ph: 1-510-540-7596 >> m: 1-510-435-8234 >> skype: kcoylenet >> _______________________________________________ >> Ol-tech mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to >> [email protected] > -- Karen Coyle [email protected] http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet _______________________________________________ Ol-tech mailing list [email protected] http://mail.archive.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ol-tech To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [email protected]
