Tom, sorry I forked the discussion -- it's just that this one really 
gets my goat.

On 3/17/13 2:33 PM, Tom Morris wrote:

>
> Presumably the same is also true of:  Translations into English,
> Translations into Italian, Translations into French,  Illustrations,
> Translations into German,  Readers, Translations, Translating into
> French [sic], Translations into Danish,   Translations from Latin,
> Translations into Spanish, Translations into Russian, Sources, Calendar,
> Accessible book, Protected DAISY, In library, Miniature books,

No idea where these translation ones come from. Many of the headings 
come from LCSH -- rather than keep the whole faceted LCSH string, OL did 
something like FAST [1] and broke the subjects into separate units based 
on the subfields in the subject headings. That gave us topic, person, 
place, time, and genre. Other subjects, though, came in on Amazon 
records, which use BISAC (about which I know very little).


>
> What I don't understand is why one would go to the trouble of separating
> out certain types of subjects, e.g.:
>
> PEOPLE
> Ovid (43 B.C.-17 or 18 A.D), Barthélemy Aneau (d. 1561), William
> Shakespeare (1564-1616), Ambrosius Metzger, Virgil, Ludovico Ariosto
> (1474-1533)
> PLACES
> Constanța, Romania, Rome
> and then mix in a bunch of random tags.  Surely if you have three
> categories, a fourth called "tags" or something isn't that hard.

Yep, that was my argument. I also felt that users might like some 
suggested categories rather than being asked to make something up from 
zero. Obviously, my arguments did not prevail.

It is hard to define a bright line between what something *is* and what 
it is *about*. But rather than seeing this as a philosophical argument, 
some cases can be made clear based on what you intend to do with the 
information. WEll, at least I think so. But I'm also losing this battle 
over at the schema.org discussion as well, so perhaps this is a minority 
opinion.

kc

[1] http://www.oclc.org/research/activities/fast.html

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