Wonderful! Will take a look tomorrow evening.

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 11:53 PM, Ben Companjen <[email protected]>wrote:

> cc: ol-tech
>
> Regarding test environments: Anand has been working on a configuration
> for Vagrant Up [1] that lets everyone setup her/his own virtual
> machine with test environment. The slogan "Create and configure
> lightweight, reproducible, and portable development environments."
> speaks to me :)
>
> I haven't touched it yet, but I believe it's ready for testing:
> https://github.com/internetarchive/openlibrary/issues/175 (closed)
>
> Ben
>
> [1] http://www.vagrantup.com/
>
> On 8 April 2013 04:12,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > We've cross emailed, but yes. I would be willing to work on a test env,
> and
> > docs for dev envs.
> >
> > My understanding (and I looked at this a bit back in Feb.) is that this
> > platform takes some work to get and keep up. But I suspect that if myself
> > and another person or two were willing, it would be possible to set
> > something up to act as sandbox, or CI, or whatever.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 7, 2013, at 19:08, Nicolás Tamargo de
> > Eguren<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Karen Coyle <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/7/13 6:31 PM, Tom Johnson wrote:
> >> > That sounds wonderful. I'd be happy to help you sort out the questions
> >> > about ISBNs, etc...
> >> >
> >> > If such definitions were available, would we be able to get them
> >> > committed and running on the main site?
> >>
> >> I don't know that we can count on that, but obviously it would be ideal.
> >> While volunteers have run bots against OL, I don't think anyone has made
> >> changes to the basic displays. This is a question that we'll need to
> >> take up because, AFAIK, there are no longer any UI developers on the
> >> project.
> >>
> >> One thing that always frustrated me was not having a test version of OL
> >> to work with. I was always used to doing changes on a test system, and
> >> it makes me extremely nervous to work directly on a system in
> >> production. I don't know how the UI changes were originally done -
> >> whether there was a test system available. (The UI team was very
> >> skillful and I suspect that the code in that area is fairly
> >> sophisticated.) I think that Anand has his own test set-up. How does
> >> that usually work in an open source project? Is there a test instance
> >> for everyone, or are people expected to create their own?
> >
> >
> > In MusicBrainz's case (which is obviously the one I know most about)
> there
> > used to be a general test instance. Since a while ago, we run a sandbox
> > server where everyone who asks for it gets their own sandbox instance,
> but
> > that obviously requires a fair bit of sysadmining which I don't know
> whether
> > anyone is willing to provide, and might be overkill for the time being -
> > just one test instance should be enough.
> >
> > FWIW, we also run a beta version (on live data) where people can check
> and
> > find problems in the code before they go live for everyone, but again,
> > that's a relatively recent development and one that might not be
> necessary
> > just yet in OL.
> >
> > Working directly on production tends to be a terrible idea, so: would
> anyone
> > be willing to set up a test server?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nicolás
> >
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