--- Kevin Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Some of you may have noticed me asking about the
> "exhaust gas  
> detector" for checking coolant a couple of weeks
> ago. Well, I found  
> the problem. This is on my wife's Astro van, so feel
> free to ignore  
> this if non-Olds posts offend you. As others have
> mentioned before,  
> this is the most comprehensive collection of
> automotive wisdom I know.
> The van has been slowly using coolant for some time.
> Never steamed  
> out the tailpipe, the oil was never milky, it would
> just get low and  
> start running hot - add more coolant and it was
> happy for another  
> several weeks, until last weekend. My wife called me
> at work on  
> Friday saying that it had died, and would not
> restart. It did start  
> later, and she drove it another 5 or 10 minutes
> before the same  
> happened again. This time she caught a ride home. I
> ran the van long  
> enough to get it on a trailer and back off. I
> suspected a fuel  
> pressure problem - it's been hard to start, then
> this. I bought a  
> fuel pressure test gauge ($40!) and was running the
> engine to see if  
> fuel pressure would drop as the pump heated up or
> something (the  
> Central Multi-point Fuel Injection on these Votecs
> is sensitive to  
> fuel pressure.) While it was idling I decided to top
> off the coolant,  
> as it appeared low. I topped it up, then again as it
> burped into the  
> system. Then again. And again. And again. Then I
> finally got  
> suspicious and pulled the dipstick. It was *way*
> over-full, and  
> milkshake city! I shut it down, proclaimed my
> dissatisfaction in  
> largely unprintable terms, and went inside to
> research the problem.
> Turns out that GM used super-crappy *plastic* intake
> gaskets (plastic  
> carrier with an elastomeric o-ring type actual
> gasket. Combine this  
> with the generally destructive nature of Dex-Cool,
> and you get  
> coolant leaks. Mine happened to be into the lifter
> valley, rather  
> than the external leaks many get. I have pictures of
> the gaskets if  
> anyone would like to see them, and I believe that I
> will join the  
> lawsuit in progress against GM for this problem.
> In the meantime, I'm hoping that the bearings
> weren't completely  
> destroyed. I figure I'll spend $100 on gaskets and
> such ($80 for the  
> Fel-Pro improved version of the gasket, a Perma-Dry
> steel gasket. The  
> stock-type is $30. Fortunately, Rock Auto has them
> on eBay for $70  
> shipped) before I spend $2500 on a rebuilt engine or
> $1000 on a good  
> used one. I don't have $1000 right now in any case.
> 
> Now for the question: the oil/water was up to the
> bottom of the  
> intake (something like 3 gallons came out!) and
> mixed up pretty good.  
> I'd like to flush as much of this nasty emulsified
> stuff out as  
> possible. I intend to fit a new filter, fill the
> oil, and run the oil  
> pump with a priming tool to wash as much of the old
> stuff out as I  
> can. Is there anything that ancient wisdom says
> would be useful in  
> flushing the gunk out, either added to the oil or by
> itself?  
> Kerosene? Marvel Mystery Oil? ATF?
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated!
> 
> On digest mode, so I'm a little slow...
> 
> Kevin Wright                                        
>  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX                            
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> 
> '71 Cutlass S for sale, less engine and trans:
> http://www.wankel.net/ 
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> 
> Snoopy: 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Sports Coupe - It
> wants to be a  
> W-31! And have EFI, 4-wheel discs, a 6-speed, a
> turbo or two... :)
> ...and a '71 Holiday Coupe less engine/transmission
> for sale - it'll  
> be parts if someone doesn't buy it!
> 
> 

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