Does anyone know how to donate the XO I received back to OLPC?--JDG On Jan 20, 2008 12:00 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [OLPC library] Suggestion for Terms of Use for content > (ffm) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:59:49 -0800 > From: "Edward Cherlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Olpc-open] [OLPC library] Suggestion for Terms of Use > for content > To: "Seth Woodworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Library-OLPC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, olpc-open > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Jan 19, 2008 7:32 PM, Seth Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We need a system to categorize our data like in your links Carol, and I > > agree that the current state of the wiki is pretty bad. But if you look > at > > projects like Wiki-Commons, or free-reading, a wiki *can* be a lot > better > > organized. We just don't have enough dedicated and informed people to > fix > > the wiki. Information doesn't spread well yet. > > One of the problems I see is that OLPC has not hired the staff of > technical writers proposed in the autumn. Tradition holds that this is > because geeks don't believe in documentation, ;-> as witness man > pages, %-[ but it is clear that there are other reasons for the > disarray at OLPC more generally. (I also hear, indirectly, that there > are people at MIT's Sloan School of Management who would like to help, > but somehow feel that they must be asked first. I don't know how true > that is, but asking couldn't hurt.) The position of Documentation Lead > has been on the Job page for months, but nobody has been hired, and in > fact Kim Quirk told me that a decision had been made not to hire any > tech writers at that time. > > More volunteers would help. A way for the volunteers to get organized > would help. Is there an official Volunteer Coordinator (aka > Cat-Herder-in-Chief)? I assume not. It wouldn't have to be a paid > position, to start, although I think that OLPC has been foolish in not > hiring more organizers, and people for a number of other functions. > > Even a place to sign up, with some indication of the greatest felt > needs, would help. The first step would be to restructure the > Volunteering page, and having somebody volunteer to keep it current. > We need to discuss what else exists and what information sources there > are before we can have a proper idea of how this page should be > organized. > > We have volunteers for > > * Development, with repository and bug tracking > * Localization, with Pootle > * Documentation ?? > * Wiki reorganization ?? > * Content librarianship ?? Needs matrix organization by document and > language, at least, with license management. > > I don't know whether anybody is doing > > * Legal ?? There are innumerable restrictions on what can be published > in various countries, with religion and politics being two of the top > restricted categories. Somebody has to go over these requirements with > experts from the ministries concerned. Also we need a > country-by-country analysis of import laws that would affect the > laptop and its contents and accessories, and government contracting > and purchasing laws and regulations. (My father used to do this sort > of thing for getting insurance policies approved in 50 states by 50 > different Insurance Commissioners.) What are the differences between > Common Law countries and Napoleonic Code countries? What other systems > are used in multiple countries? What treaties and treaty organizations > affect these issues? > * Recruiting ?? There is no shortage of people with the skills we > need, and many of them have the available time and inclination. We > need to reach out to them. > * Country tracking ??? None of this is on the Wiki, except in a > conjectural state. Somebody needs to monitor the state of negotiations > with each prospect country, and provide guidance to the volunteers on > languages to target for localization and a number of other matters. > > Some kinds of information need to be in a repository or database, not > just a Wiki, where organization has to be created and maintained > manually. > > What else? > > Well, Earth Treasury is separately recruiting artists, musicians, > sound engineers, filmmakers, linguists, and others to aid the children > in recording their heritages and publishing them to the world. Also > people in business, and every adjunct profession, to help the children > go into business together. And other things. None of that is within > the OLPC mission. Should it be? > > Oh, and the children need to have a place to connect around the world. > > > On Jan 19, 2008 6:04 PM, Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Seth, sorry for sending this once to you and then to the list. On > > reflection I felt it should go to the list as well. > > > > > > > > > Truly the wiki is NOT the best way to organize content such as the > > activities page. > > > > > > Yes, the countries will be the arbiters of taste as to what is shipped > on > > each of their xo's but what about the next step? > > > > > > Here are examples of completely different way to organize this type of > > content (not very beautiful but quite a lot more functional than just a > > list): > > > > > > > > > http://www.cmsmatrix.org/matrix/cms-matrix?func=search > > > > > > or > > > > > > http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search > > > > > > I think we need a search by age/grade level, subject matter, > localization, > > countries using, minimum build requirement, maturity/bugginess, tag > (where > > an app could have multiple tags that were optional and possibly > pejorative!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The current activity page is pretty hard to use -- in the computer > > science/database world I think we could term it a "heap". > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Library mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/library > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Library mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/library > > > > > > > > -- > Edward Cherlin > End Poverty at a Profit by teaching children business > http://www.EarthTreasury.org/ <http://www.earthtreasury.org/> > "The best way to predict the future is to invent it."--Alan Kay > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:49:58 -0500 > From: ffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Olpc-open] [OLPC library] Suggestion for Terms of Use > for content > To: "Edward Cherlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Library-OLPC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, olpc-open > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Jan 20, 2008 1:59 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > More volunteers would help. A way for the volunteers to get organized > > would help. Is there an official Volunteer Coordinator (aka > > Cat-Herder-in-Chief)? I assume not. It wouldn't have to be a paid > > position, to start, although I think that OLPC has been foolish in not > > hiring more organizers, and people for a number of other functions. > > > Actualy, there _is_ a volunteer coordinater, Adam Holt (holt AT laptop), > and > IIRC, it is a paid position. Feel free to email him if you would like to > help out. > > > The first step would be to restructure the > > Volunteering page, and having somebody volunteer to keep it current. > > Which is why it is a wiki. (see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOFIXIT ) > > > > > We need to discuss what else exists and what information sources there > > are before we can have a proper idea of how this page should be > > organized. > > > > We have volunteers for > > > > * Development, with repository and bug tracking > > * Localization, with Pootle > > * Documentation ?? > > And paid employees. > > > > > * Wiki reorganization ?? > > Yep. Anyone can just join. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-open/attachments/20080120/dcd0542d/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:51:19 -0500 > From: ffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Olpc-open] [OLPC library] Suggestion for Terms of Use > for content > To: "Carol Lerche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Library-OLPC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, olpc-open > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Jan 20, 2008 12:02 AM, Carol Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The problem with the page you reference is that it is static. If I go > to > > look for a selection of a large collection, I can't ask that only a > > pertinent subset be shown. One possibility is that the entire activity > set > > be left in the wiki and the dev site be used to host a more dynamic, > > database backed implementation, which no doubt Trak is another instance > of. > > > > If you mean by "static" that it cannot be sorted by item etc. > automagicaly, > there is actualy a "Up/Down" button that sorts by name in a spesific > column. > > -ffm > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-open/attachments/20080120/77070a36/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Olpc-open mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-open > > > End of Olpc-open Digest, Vol 19, Issue 16 > ***************************************** >
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