On 26/07/2015 10:32, OpenMandriva Council wrote: > > Hello community > > The recent message "Project state, future and the inevitable doom" was > considered so counterproductive and rude that we've had to mute it and > put its author on premoderation for now because we want this list to > be productive without degenerating into flamewar-of-the-day. > > OpenMandriva is a team, consisting of many people, investing lots of > time into the distro. We all have opinions and don't always agree, but > we always look for consensus and resolve conflicts peacefully. Anyone > can ask for an issue to be put on a meeting agenda (meetings are held > regularly at known times).The author of the muted email never did > this. (To give you another idea of the approach, recently he stated > for example, that the meetings were no good because they were held at > the same time every week. So no matter what we do we will always be > wrong). > > The email violates our code of conduct > (https://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Mod) > <https://wiki.openmandriva.org/en/Mod%29>in several ways, and recent > ECHR case law actually requires us to remove content that is > potentially offensive to third parties (such as Matthew) from our > servers. (see e.g. > http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2015/06/shock-european-court-decision-websites-are-liable-for-users-comments/) > > The email does bring up a few points that we think need to be > clarified (this tricky desinformation flow could seed some doubts, > unfortunately). > 1. It is true that we are not rich, but we have enough money to > keep all of our infrastructure safe for a minimum of 1 year from now, > and we constantly work on various possibilities to further improve our > financial state. And we do have progress. Members of association get > annual financial report, and answers to questions immediately after > they ask these. We got nothing to hide and give no grounds to > conspiracy theories. > 2. Speaking of infra, in the last fewdays there was a high risk of > that ABF would be switched off very soon (and ROSAwould move its data > somewhere else, relaunch etc, they can tell better themselves if > asked). However, the Council was busy saving all our data and making > sure that all of our common work is not under threat anymore. While > the email author was busy with text in his regular style. > 3. As for the trademark situation, unfortunately "Mandriva is > dead, so all their trademarks are gone" is not true, trademarks can be > sold off and Mandriva did that before being dissolved. The deal that > allows us to use the OpenMandriva name is perpetual however, and > cannot be revoked by the new owner of the trademarks, so we are safe. > Similarily, Hearst still claims to own the Mandrake name, and while > their case is weak, we don't think fighting off trademark suits is a > wise use of our resources. > 4. It was common decision to have not a "project leader", but > several people covering this role'sobjectives. Anyoneinterested in > more details, give a shout, we will tell more or dig out the relevant > meeting logs. > > As always, we welcome any input as long as it is made in a civilized > manner - and let's avoid beating a dead horse over and over again. > > OpenMandriva Council > >
Thank you for your clarification. Still two questions. Is it possible (unless this a strict classified info) to know how much money exactly are there to run the infrastructure as on point 1? And second, sound that Mr. Karlsen, is still "moderated" from this list. I understand that he might have committed some "foul" (to use a football language), but after the "red card", and some missed match all the bans are usually canceled. I think that for what Mr. Karlsen have made (in good or in bad ;-)) for the distribution (present and past) he still deserve the possibility to answer and give more clarification to his points and/ or some excuses in the case he might have offended someone. Best regards. Giuseppe Ghibò.
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