On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Danek Duvall wrote: > > Still, putting the messages into the moderation queue would be far > friendlier than bouncing them outright. The pkg-discuss moderation duties > are quite small, and the normal list traffic there is pretty sizeable. I > imagine moderating on-discuss wouldn't be a huge burden.
I keep traffic stats actually: Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec on-discuss 26 114 - - - - - - - - - - 140 pkg-discuss 975 751 - - - - - - - - - - 1726 There are a number of lists who bounce/reject email from the non-subscribed which, along with those that silently discard, are something I've been trying to discourage and even make policy discouraging it in the cases where general public participation is actively encouraged, e.g. web-side forums with gateways to mailing lists. But, I think in this case the point is well met that you should be in possession of enough technical prowess to understand both the need and the method for subscription. Reject or hold comes down to the semantics of who your audience/subscribers is/are and if you care that more people will be irate when rejected rather than held for moderation. It does tend to raise the bar on technical/dev lists. I think I've managed to reduce the amount of spam getting as far as the moderation queue to a minimum, with the exception of spam in French which always seems to go to indiana and cifs, which makes moderation less of a pointless chore for those who fear moderation would be a deluge of spam. And I clear the mod queue at least once a day...but I probably shouldn't admit to that in public. :) Those with one or more addresses who don't want to receive list mail can always either request a specific whitelist entry by the list owner or they can always subscribe and tick the 'no mail' box in their subscription management panel via the mailman web interface. I had no objections to specific username at domain whitelist entries in mailman, only the large blanket and, often wildly incorrect, sun.com whitelist entries. e.