I love UML in a variety of contexts, but for expressing things that are
destined to be expressed in yang, or for creating things to be rendered to
yang, in my experience its been a very poor fit.

Ed

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Brian Hedstrom <
brian.hedstrom at oamtechnologies.com> wrote:

> The way to put all these different data models under a single umbrella is
> to create a UML <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Modeling_Language>
> Information Model using Eclipse/Papyrus (as an open source tool).
> Unified Modeling Language (UML) is a standard syntax for describing the
> architectural design of a system
>
>    - Object Management Group (OMG) & ISO standard
>    - Originated from object-oriented software development methods
>
> UML includes many diagrams types to graphically represent parts of a
> system?s model, including
>
>    - Structural Views: The static nature of the system using objects,
>    attributes and relationships (e.g., information or components that must be
>    present in the system). This includes class diagrams and component 
> diagrams.
>    - Behavioral: The dynamic nature of the system through collaboration
>    of objects and state changes (e.g., activities performed by the system).
>    This includes use case diagrams, sequence diagrams, state machines.
>
> UML is protocol agnostic and therefore these "Information Models" are
> protocol agnostic.
>
> UML models can then be transformed into protocol specific data models such
> as YANG, XML, SMIv2, etc.
>
> Creating a UML Information Model allows data cohesion across the various
> interfaces in the system.  Using Interface Realizations
> <http://www.uml-diagrams.org/realization.html>, specific interfaces can
> be modeled.  In fact, an interface Information Model could be transformed
> into multiple data models to support multiple management protocols.
>
> Therefore, the focus first is on building a UML Information Model, then
> once that's approved by the organization, then data models and encodings
> can be generated based on the chosen interface protocols.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>
> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 5:13 AM, <zhao.huabing at zte.com.cn> wrote:
>
>> Hi Brijesh,
>>
>> You brought up a great topic, we may need to converge at the same aspect,
>> but for different aspects, there are different modelling languages which
>> can better meet the specific requirement of that aspect, and they are very
>> complementary.
>>
>> For example, TOSCA(Heat is another, come with openstack) is a good choice
>> for the topology modelling of cloud application , YANG can be used for the
>> configuration model( normally using for L2 L3, can be used for L4-L7 as
>> well), and BPMN is good at workflow orchestration.
>>
>> It's difficult to put all these different modelling capabilities in a
>> single data model or using an unique DSL, and we don't need to. But It's
>> possible to make them work together smoothly under a unified umbrella
>> system to accomplish the automated close loop and I'm glad to see ONAP has
>> already make a very good start at that job.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Huabing
>>
>> ????
>> *???:* BrijeshKhandelwal;
>> *???:*GILBERT, MAZIN E (MAZIN E); denghui (L); JANA,RITTWIK (RITTWIK);
>> onap-discuss at lists.onap.org; onap-tsc at lists.onap.org;
>> *??:* 2017-04-22 11:56:56
>> *??:Re: [onap-discuss] [onap-tsc] Modelling discussion on Friday May 5th*
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>>
>> Adding some thoughts on information model:
>>
>> Orchestration need to interoperate among different interfaces, which in
>> turn need to deal with very different payloads in form of YAML, YANG, JSON
>>  etc. There will be lots of data processing among these models to process
>> complete service. Handling these templates in orchestrator will impose
>> limitations on capability and performance of orchestrator.
>>
>> So, there should have standardized data model for smooth processing among
>> orchestration steps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Probably first time, orchestration is composing 3 different worlds of
>> Network, Infra, IT, with different tunes of YANG, YAML, JSON/XML.
>>
>> Is there a play to develop standardized data models for orchestration,
>> which will meet needs of each area? Is TOSCA sufficient? Or need some
>> extended JSON data models?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Brijesh
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* onap-tsc-bounces at lists.onap.org [mailto:onap-tsc-bounces at lists
>> .onap.org] *On Behalf Of *GILBERT, MAZIN E (MAZIN E)
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:30 AM
>> *To:* denghui (L); JANA, RITTWIK (RITTWIK)
>> *Cc:* onap-discuss at lists.onap.org; onap-tsc at lists.onap.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [onap-tsc] Modelling discussion on Friday May 5th
>>
>>
>>
>> Rittwik, Deng,
>>
>>
>>
>> This is great. Thank you  for taking the lead.
>>
>>
>>
>> I realize the focus is on TOSCA and parsers. Wonderful!
>>
>> I want to take you one level higher to start by discussing
>>
>> what the framework look like for the information model. Perhaps  invite
>> folks who have
>>
>> operational experience. Then start describing the differernt
>>
>> data models and how TOSCA plays a role in driving service chaining and
>> micro services
>>
>> (like analytics, data collections, etc).
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be great if the outcome of this mini session to
>>
>> be a recommendation position/paper or a proposal for a project.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mazin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 20, 2017, at 4:34 AM, denghui (L) <denghui12 at huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello all
>>
>>
>>
>> We are happy to let you know that we are hosting a modeling session on
>> Friday, May 5th, AT&T Lab.
>>
>> 9:00-10:30 Shitao moderate: TOSCA NFV Profile
>>
>> 10:30-12:00 Rittwik moderate: AT&T Parser
>>
>> 13:30-16:00 DengHui moderate: Modelling & Opendeployment
>>
>>
>>
>> Please kindly help to let us know if you are interested in joining us, so
>> that we can book a proper meeting room for our discussion
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Rittwik & DENG Hui
>>
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