Sorry for not responding until now as I have been traveling.

Two things....

Design time

There is a questionnaire in onboarding which collects information so that any 
special needs can be considered (manually) for VIM setup offline ahead of any 
deployment.

Aspects of the HEAT are captured in the design model during onboarding and I 
believe you could also capture custom extensions.

Run Time

The ONAP optimisation framework (which looks at the model) which intends to 
help SO to make a homing/placement decision on which VIM or data centre to use 
could do this based on the extensions required by the model

Most of what I have said will be in place for the R1 or is in place now - 
however I suggest that if this functionality is vital to you that you work with 
one of the use case teams to get this entered as part of the flow

Regards
Mark

On 18 Jun 2017, at 17:49, Viswa KSP 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Mark Pond,

"MSO receives the HEAT from SDC through the distribution scheme, not via A&AI" 
=> So this must be happening through DMAAP ??

"Whatever processes the HEAT extension needs to be installed and working in 
Openstack " => So then this becomes a requirement for deployment. But then this 
is not captured well in design phase, isn't it?

In a typical service provider scenario, design & deployment happen in multiple 
isolated team and design team won't have access to deployment VIM ( managed VIM 
). So in that case, there should be some indication / notification that 
actually indicates the admin ( one who deploys VNFs ) that this model contains 
vendor extensions, that are needed to be pre-installed in VIM isn't it?

Please let me know if I'm missing anything here.

Once again thanks for helping me understand heat validation better.

BR,
VIswa


On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Mark Pond 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
MSO receives the HEAT from SDC through the distribution scheme, not via A&AI

Whatever processes the HEAT extension needs to be installed and working in 
Openstack

Regards
Mark

On 18 Jun 2017, at 11:52, Viswa KSP 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Tal Halfon,

Thanks for details. If I understand correctly, I deduce that new extensions can 
be added by overriding a known interface.
In that case, may I ask how does the vendor extensions cascaded in deployment 
time.

i.e In SDC, I'm uploading a heat artifact with vendor extensions and by 
overriding this validator, my implementation would be called to validate the 
same.
So in design time everything goes smooth. This VSP would then be promoted as 
VNF / network service and be distributed. In deployment time, AAI would pull 
these models from SDC and then feed it to MSO, which would then call openstack 
APIs to on-board the VNF in NFVI. Here, how about the extensions be handled? 
Should this then require a manual step of patching HEAT component with 
downstream openstack ?

BR,
Viswa

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Halfon Tal 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi

SDC has its own validation logic that can be configured.
The validations is not based on OpenStack. User can add new Validators (as code 
base libraries) and disable others

There is a configuration framework that user can build its own extension to the 
validation mechanism and then run with SDC. The configuration is supporting 
only build time and not run time

How Does it work:
The validation lib contains number of validators, each one contains its own 
validations.
Every validator implements the "Validator" interface, and has to override the 
"validate" method. this method gets a globalContext, which contains the files 
to validate and the validation error messages for each file. this context is 
shared between all the validators, and we "move" it from one to another in 
order to collect all the possible validation messages, since there is no 
dependency between the validators.
A validator can get enabled/disabled using configuration, and as a result - all 
of its validations will get enabled/disabled.



Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

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From: ROSE, DANIEL V [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 7:20 PM
To: Viswa KSP <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Kedar Ambekar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; Halfon Tal 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: [onap-discuss] Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

As sdc has to deconstruct the heat and then create a tosca from it, yes you 
need to enhance both heat to tosca and heat parser logic for new stuff. 
Contrail is included out of the box though which is something vmx uses I think? 
Anything else custom would be development work in sdc.


Thanks,

Daniel Rose
ECOMP / ONAP
com.att.ecomp
732-420-7308

From: Viswa KSP [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 5:27 AM
To: ROSE, DANIEL V <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Kedar Ambekar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; Halfon Tal 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

Thanks Daniel. In that case may I ask, how heat extensions are managed? Will 
this require a patch to said heat component?

BR,
Viswa

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:37 PM, ROSE, DANIEL V 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
https://gerrit.onap.org/r/gitweb?p=sdc.git;a=tree;f=openecomp-be/lib/openecomp-heat-lib/src/main;hb=refs/heads/master<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gerrit.onap.org_r_gitweb-3Fp-3Dsdc.git-3Ba-3Dtree-3Bf-3Dopenecomp-2Dbe_lib_openecomp-2Dheat-2Dlib_src_main-3Bhb-3Drefs_heads_master&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=2wwdGZ3YcpSivQ2Kio028A&m=MlBSwCNay_heO0jqrdC-7fY2r0ijHgbn81bc_BAzdp8&s=CRPBqHx79pGOIm2pD9LDu1xqmE2-QRfOkBKgj0B6il4&e=>
 has the heat types and is not just a call to openstack

Thanks,
Daniel Rose
ECOMP / ONAP
com.att.ecomp
732-420-7308

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[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Viswa KSP
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:35 AM
To: Kedar Ambekar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; Halfon Tal 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

Dear All,

Does ONAP SDC has a customer HEAT validator inbuilt or whether the HEAT 
validation goes all the way down to Openstack VIM?

Basically I would like to understand how custom extensions of HEAT are being 
validated in SDC.


  *   If HEAT validation is being done at downstream openstack level, then 
extensions based on existing HEAT resources ( like Juniper vMX case ) or 
extensions based on HEAT plugins will be done based on capability extended by 
HEAT component.

     *   Or In other words, you need to manually install HEAT plugins in server 
component and validation will then be cascaded back to SDC level.

  *   If HEAT validation is bring done at SDC level, that means you are having 
a standalone HEAT parser.

     *   If so, how the custom extensions based on derivations and heat plugins 
are being performed?
     *   If I have a HEAT resource based on my own HEAT plugin, how am I 
suppose to install that in SDC inorder to make the validation happen?

BR,
Viswa

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Kedar Ambekar 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thank you. I will try with 1.0-STAGING-latest tag.

From: Halfon Tal [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:26 PM

To: Kedar Ambekar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

Do not catch there later :)
But  use the latest one and seams that it works


Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

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From: Kedar Ambekar [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:18 PM
To: Halfon Tal <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

Ohh !

You are saying if I update to the latest SDC build, it will accept the zip I 
sent without making any change ?

From: Halfon Tal [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:14 PM
To: Kedar Ambekar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

It was the zip you sent me


Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

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From: Kedar Ambekar [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:03 PM
To: Halfon Tal <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

Thanks Halfon !!

Could you share the zip as well ? I received only screenshot confirming success 
in second email.

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From: Halfon Tal [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:54 PM
To: Kedar Ambekar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

Sorry
I attach it now


Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

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From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Halfon Tal
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:53 PM
To: Kedar Ambekar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

Hi

I succeed do it on my environment.
Please look at the attach

Are you using the last build/code of SDC in ONAP.
We contribute some new validation and supporting more HEAT validation then 
before.


Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

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From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kedar Ambekar
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

Hi Halfon,

Ok, got it. Thanks !

PFA zip that contains Juniper vMX heat templates taken from GitHub. From cloned 
files, we have removed the ones not needed for our topology. Also as mandated 
by guidelines, we have added env file (with some dummy values) for every YAML.

Appreciate if you suggest on changes needed.


From: Halfon Tal [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 4:35 PM
To: Kedar Ambekar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

Hi

Basically there is no way to disable the heat validation using configuration

Can you send me the Heat zip that I will be able to check it for you?
Can you capture the error and send it?


Best regards
Tal Halfon

Development Manager @ Amdocs

P. +972 54 2213763

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From: 
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kedar Ambekar
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:38 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [onap-discuss] Disabling heat validation in SDC ?

Hi All,

We are trying to onboard a Vendor Software Product. SDC is not accepting the 
corresponding zip file saying its invalid (doesn’t give more details in UI ! ).

We have found that there many violations of mandatory heat guidelines due to 
which SDC is accepting the zip. But changing the templates so that these 
guidelines get passed is very tedious work.

Any possibility that this validation can be disabled in SDC for time being ? 
Thank you.


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