Thanks, Vladimir,

5G task force: the following requests were received:


1.       SON support

2.       Network slicing support

3.       Controllers architecture

I attach them to this email.

Best regards,

Alla Goldner

Open Network Division
Amdocs Technology


[cid:[email protected]]

From: Vladimir Yanover (vyanover) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 6:17 PM
To: Alla Goldner <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 
onap-tsc <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [onap-tsc] e2e use cases for approval by the TSC

Hi, Alla,

Thanks for sending this. To my deep regret, there is a problem. Cisco several 
times expressed opposition to having SON in this release. The reason is that 
the architecture for SON was never properly analyzed.
Therefore I request removal of the following items

1.       SON - problem formulation

2.       SON - problem solving

3.       Slice optimization problem formulation

4.       Slice optimization problem solving
For all four, the concern is about splitting of the SON procedure(s) into two 
independent pieces.
For #3 and #4, in addition to that, there is no consistent definition yet (in 
3GPP) of slice level performance measurements. With no performance 
measurements, what kind of optimization can be arranged?

Thanks
Vladimir


From: Alla Goldner <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 11:34 AM
To: Vladimir Yanover (vyanover) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; onap-tsc 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [onap-tsc] e2e use cases for approval by the TSC

Hi Vladimir,

The implementation proposals for 5G use cases in Casablanca was also discussed 
during several Usecase subcommittee meetings and presentation is uploaded for 
yesterday's TSC meting 
https://wiki.onap.org/pages/editpage.action?pageId=28381537

I also attach it.

Best regards,

Alla Goldner

Open Network Division
Amdocs Technology


[cid:[email protected]]

From: Vladimir Yanover (vyanover) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 11:24 AM
To: Alla Goldner <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; onap-tsc 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [onap-tsc] e2e use cases for approval by the TSC

Alla,
Can you please clarify what exactly you received from 5G group?
Unless I am missing something, there was no 5G call to finally decide which use 
cases are going to the use case subcommittee. There were several proposals 
presented, most of them good, but even for those I have difficulty to 
understand which of them (and which versions) have been ever endorsed by the 5G 
group.
Thanks
Vladimir

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
Behalf Of Alla Goldner
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 7:58 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
onap-tsc <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [onap-tsc] e2e use cases for approval by the TSC

Hi all,

As we didn't have any time left for use case discussion and approval during 
yesterday's TSC meeting and likely will not have till the launch of Beijing due 
to urgent Beijing related discussions, the meeting decision was that we will 
host e2e use case approval discussions during Usecase subcommittee meetings on 
Monday, 4 pm CET.


1.       All use case authors - please make sure you distributed your 
presentations for approval. So far, we've received 5G group, Edge Automation 
and auto Scaling out

2.       Kenny, as agreed, please make sure all PTLs aware the discussion will 
take place during Use case subcommittee meeting

Best regards,

Alla Goldner

Open Network Division
Amdocs Technology


[cid:[email protected]]

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Hi Alla,



Regarding the Casablanca use cases information – and the request was send 
questions to the usecase sub-committe.  I read the use case information that 
was posted and some of the detailed information in the wiki.



I had a question about the 5G uses cases.

1.      It refers to the evolution of the SDNR, however the architecture has 
SDNC and APPC; I think that we need to phrase it in terms of those controllers 
as we don’t have a SDNR as such in ONAP; (and the SDNR project is a sub-project 
to SDNC.  The architectural repsentation could be different, however the 
architecture does have SDNC, and APPC and in the discussed longterm view a “NF 
controller”.  The APPC was for the “L4-L7” vnfs, which applies to the RAN NFs 
(they are at that level the same as IMS or packet core).
2.      The details of the 5G use case indicate that it has to be a single 
controller.  I believe I asked for clarification as to why this is to be the 
case as I think this is limiting and don’t understand the need.



BR,



Steve.





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Hi, Alla,



Thanks for sending this. To my deep regret, there is a problem. Cisco several 
times expressed opposition to having SON in this release. The reason is that 
the architecture for SON was never properly analyzed.

Therefore I request removal of the following items

1.      SON - problem formulation

2.      SON - problem solving

3.      Slice optimization problem formulation

4.      Slice optimization problem solving

For all four, the concern is about splitting of the SON procedure(s) into two 
independent pieces.

For #3 and #4, in addition to that, there is no consistent definition yet (in 
3GPP) of slice level performance measurements. With no performance 
measurements, what kind of optimization can be arranged?



Thanks

Vladimir





From: Alla Goldner <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 11:34 AM
To: Vladimir Yanover (vyanover) <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]; onap-tsc <[email protected]>; 
[email protected]
Subject: RE: [onap-tsc] e2e use cases for approval by the TSC



Hi Vladimir,



The implementation proposals for 5G use cases in Casablanca was also discussed 
during several Usecase subcommittee meetings and presentation is uploaded for 
yesterday’s TSC meting 
https://wiki.onap.org/pages/editpage.action?pageId=28381537



I also attach it.



Best regards,



Alla Goldner



Open Network Division

Amdocs Technology









From: Vladimir Yanover (vyanover) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 11:24 AM
To: Alla Goldner <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; onap-tsc 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [onap-tsc] e2e use cases for approval by the TSC



Alla,

Can you please clarify what exactly you received from 5G group?

Unless I am missing something, there was no 5G call to finally decide which use 
cases are going to the use case subcommittee. There were several proposals 
presented, most of them good, but even for those I have difficulty to 
understand which of them (and which versions) have been ever endorsed by the 5G 
group.

Thanks

Vladimir



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
Behalf Of Alla Goldner
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 7:58 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
onap-tsc <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [onap-tsc] e2e use cases for approval by the TSC



Hi all,



As we didn’t have any time left for use case discussion and approval during 
yesterday’s TSC meeting and likely will not have till the launch of Beijing due 
to urgent Beijing related discussions, the meeting decision was that we will 
host e2e use case approval discussions during Usecase subcommittee meetings on 
Monday, 4 pm CET.



1.      All use case authors – please make sure you distributed your 
presentations for approval. So far, we’ve received 5G group, Edge Automation 
and auto Scaling out

2.      Kenny, as agreed, please make sure all PTLs aware the discussion will 
take place during Use case subcommittee meeting



Best regards,



Alla Goldner



Open Network Division

Amdocs Technology









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