Hi,

My understanding is that the discussion was heading for the following:

  *   A means to collect data from ONAP and export it to a data lake.  This 
would be part of the “ONAP definition” when all is complete.  The idea here was 
the use of DMaaP as a starting point, and I understand this was heading towards 
going in the DCAE project.
  *   Then it is required to test it. For there some form of reference data 
lake would be included in integration to test the data.

The point being that this approach allows for different data lakes without ONAP 
specifying what that is, and can still allow experimental work in the 
integration.

I think as this hasn’t been approved, it isn’t on Catherines list.

BR,

Steve

From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org <onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> On Behalf Of Vijay VK
Sent: Thursday 31 January 2019 18:26
To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org
Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Data Lake

Hi TSC, Could someone please clarify what is the scope of datalake POC targeted 
for Dublin?

Also I don’t see this tracked under current requirement - 
https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Dublin+Release+Requirements?

Regards,
Vijay

From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> 
<onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>> On Behalf Of Kenny 
Paul
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>
Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Data Lake

Actually comparing the vote at the meeting to the attendance at the meeting, 
datalake as a POC only for Dublin passed.


Thanks!

-kenny

From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> 
<onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>> On Behalf Of Lingli 
Deng
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 10:16 PM
To: onap-tsc <onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>>
Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Data Lake


Hi TSC,



As for Datalake proposal, I suppose it is well discussed and understood.

I recalled the consensus was it is useful and we want it to be done, but not 
including the backend storages and as part of DCAE for Dublin.

Kenny also initiated a vote in the chatting room during the TSC call two weeks 
ago.

Is that conclusive or do we need another vote to settle the issue and move on?



Thanks,



Lingli/邓灵莉

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Well described Srini. A clarification – the Kafka broker is installed as part 
of ONAP correct?

Since DMaaP is a wrapper over Kafka, I am more inclined towards the datalake 
connectivity enablement being part of DMaaP project.

Thanks,
Ramki

From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> 
<onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>> On Behalf Of Srini
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] Data Lake

Just to add some more information:


·        Apache Kafka added Authorization and ACLs functionality 
(http://kafka.apache.org/documentation/#securoty_authz<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttp-253A-252F-252Fkafka.apache.org-252Fdocumentation-252F-2523securoty-5Fauthz-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cramkik-2540vmware.com-257C0be423483c4f46a4e33208d67e52b18b-257Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0-257C0-257C0-257C636835291004260562-26sdata-3DCcCqJEHrx8G1OfRG-252Bz6Fskos0POvRF3RZ4KaTU-252FTD2c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=6WYcUG7NY-ZxfqWx5MmzVQ&m=BdFSnRoAwjtplUQ-5mUoSO2MnJjsgXCA7aKte2BhAXg&s=Bmc2Bt5jZI8BKnJCiQyTN4cX9Dzcf5efYgBp8m2cHE8&e=>)
  which allows providing configurable access control to external entities that 
need access to Kafka topics..

·        Kafka Operator 
(https://github.com/strimzi/strimzi-kafka-operator<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252Fstrimzi-252Fstrimzi-2Dkafka-2Doperator-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cramkik-2540vmware.com-257C0be423483c4f46a4e33208d67e52b18b-257Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0-257C0-257C0-257C636835291004260562-26sdata-3DasGgFuZAnpqltDsjTuATgnGvrRkAbdJMXj59FSs50vQ-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=6WYcUG7NY-ZxfqWx5MmzVQ&m=BdFSnRoAwjtplUQ-5mUoSO2MnJjsgXCA7aKte2BhAXg&s=yEMPBvdGp_sBXrOpUaBo2JoyltXvUtCun4O8xy-Odxo&e=>)
  made it simple to create ACLs using Kubernetes resources.

Both of above technologies/features can be added.

From the workflow perspective, there are two operations by the ONAP user:


·        Register external Kafka entity (In this case, external data like is a 
kafka client)

·        Unregister the entity.

It is similar to the way cloud-regions are registered via ESR. Records can be 
added to A&AI DB.
One can provide GUI/CLI to make it simple for ONAP-users to add these in A&AI.

As part of registration, one can add users or certificate names and topic they 
are allowed to subscribe to.  When external entity registered in A&AI, it can 
trigger the kafka operator to add the ACL records.

With this,  each data lake can be brought up outside of ONAP and register that 
with A&AI by ONAP-User. Once that happens, data lake can get hold of any 
messages produced on the topic and can store in its databases  and provide any 
analytics.

Thanks
Srini


From: Addepalli, Srinivasa R
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 2:12 PM
To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>
Subject: RE: Data Lake

My view is that data lakes (this one or any other data lake) can be considered 
as external entities (can be brought up ONAP like any other VNFs or via some 
other mechanisms). That includes feeder and UI.

From ONAP perspective, we need to ensure that Kafka bus is accessible by third 
party systems, that is,  authenticated registration of third party systems and 
RBAC on topics etc…

Since this datalake is specific to ONAP monitoring, I guess it is required that 
all modules send all its telemetry data and transaction data to Kafka.  In my 
view, ideal thing is to do this integration from ISTIO  side car.

Thanks
Srini


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[mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Terrill
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:19 PM
To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>
Subject: [onap-tsc] Data Lake

Hi All,

During the TSC discussion today on the data lake; the discussion was leading 
towards considering the data lake feeder as part of DCAE.  Upon further 
reflection, I was wondering whether we should also consider including  it as 
part of DMAAP as an alternative option.  Just for consideration.

BR,

Steve

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