Hi Eric,

Just to be on the same page:


  1.  Application life cycle management on K8s Clusters is taken care by 
following micro-services
     *   K8s Plugin Service in Multi Cloud project (new development)
     *   Mongo DB & etcd (Non-ONAP open source)
     *   SDC Client in Multi-Cloud (New development)
     *   SDC modifications
     *   SO modification
     *   Multi-Cloud broker modifications.
  2.  ONAP4K8s is one recipe and useful for greenfield (e.g Enterprises and 
Industry 4.0) deployments. It has following
     *   K8s Plugin Service in Multi Cloud project
     *   Security Micro-services (SMS, Vault, TPM related)
     *   Mongo DB & etcd (Non-ONAP open source)

>From the beginning, we wanted to make sure that everything we do is modular 
>and can be deployed standalone fashion,  keeping micro-service architecture 
>principles in mind.
ONAP4K8s recipe need not be used if the intention is to use along with rest of 
ONAP (SDC, SO, AAF, OOF etc...). We have both models supported (standalone or 
integrated).
ONAP4K8s is mainly for greenfield scenarios.

If the term 'ONAP' in ONAP4K8s is confusing, we can rename this recipe as 
something else.  I think based on another email on similar subject, you seem to 
be implying that if people are not using some components such as SDC, SO, AAF 
are not used, then it should not be called as ONAP. If this is the concern,  we 
don't mind removing ONAP4K8s page altogether and put it in places (such as 
Akraino/ICN) where it is being used.  Let us know.

Is the concern/confusion that we are not using OOM for this profile? If this is 
the concern, we do have plans to ensure that OOM is leveraged for creating the 
profile with above services as in (2).  But at this time, OOM granularity is 
selection of projects, but not micro-services in each project. Hence, we 
created something to move forward.

Thanks
Srini


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Eric Debeau via lists.onap.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 11:51 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
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Subject: Re: [onap-cnf-taskforce] OVP 2.0 - Workstream 7 - ONAP POC and 
existing development work

Hi

I participated this afternoon to the various sessions around CNF where there is 
a lot of activities for this long journey towards managing CNF.

However, I am still confused about the communication about ONAP4K8S and the 
statement that we should rely on ONAP4K8S to manage CNF in ONAP.

We can not state that ONAP4K8 is an ONAP profile. Based on the code available 
on the ONAP repo 
https://git.onap.org/multicloud/k8s/tree/deployments/helm/onap4k8s, we can see 
that ONAP4K8S is not using existing ONAP project. There is a dedicated chart 
for the deployment not reusing existing ONAP ones (managed by OOM project):
https://git.onap.org/multicloud/k8s/tree/deployments/helm/onap4k8s. It is only 
based on one Docker from multicoud project (multicloud-ks), mongodb, etcd and 
other common components with no reference to existing official ONAP charts 
defined in OOM repo.

I have no problem if we consider it clearly as a PoC, but we can not claim that 
is an ONAP profile and the way we communicate on ONAP4K8S is not clear an is 
very confusing.

As an example of "ONAP profile", we can find one for 5G slicing use-case where 
the use-case team has defined an optimized subset of ONAP components for their 
slicing use-case: 
https://git.onap.org/oom/tree/kubernetes/onap/resources/overrides/onap-5g-network-slicing.yaml

We really need to clarify this topic.

Best Regards

Eric
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development work
Hi Catherine,

Thanks for defining the scope of WS7. I admit it was not clear to me before, 
and now it makes much sense.

One thing If I may suggest - the phrasing of "Initial experimentations with 
basic CNF(s)..." sounds a bit non-committal, as if we are not sure if and when 
we want to support CNFs. How about "Incremental improvements to accommodate for 
CNF(s) in order to validate..."

Regards,

Ranny.


From: 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
on behalf of Catherine LEFEVRE 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
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<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Monday, April 20, 2020 at 12:16 PM
To: 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [onap-cnf-taskforce] OVP 2.0 - Workstream 7 - ONAP POC and 
existing development work
Resent-From: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

Team,

I have tried to define the scope of WS07 track as follows:
WS07 Scope: ONAP POCs & Existing Development Work to support CNFs

  *   Initial experimentations with basic CNF(s) in order to validate 
onboarding, instantiation of multiple CNFs, monitoring, etc. processes
  *   Implement what you learn from ETSI-based CNF support
  *   Pursue our Cloud Native Security journey by leveraging the benefits of a 
Service Mesh
https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/OVP+2.0+Workstreams<https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=6f5d5e21-329197a5-6f5cd56e-0cc47aa8f5ba-c8e25d0565acdc71&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.lfnetworking.org%2Fdisplay%2FLN%2FOVP%2B2.0%2BWorkstreams>


I have also updated the following wiki - 
https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=34603941<https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=26cea1db-7b02685f-26cf2a94-0cc47aa8f5ba-1d49586a26fe8cde&q=1&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.lfnetworking.org%2Fpages%2Fviewpage.action%3FpageId%3D34603941>
I have merged #1 and #5 together.
Under item #1 - I have also added the CDS work developed in Frankfurt as 
suggested by Lucasz

Shall I also merge #3 SO with the new #1 cFW POC ?
If yes then I can rename #1 as "Initial experimentations with basic CNF(s) in 
order to validate onboarding, instantiation of multiple CNFs, monitoring 
processes"
So it gives us more time to evaluate the two paths - SO & Multi-Cloud.

The OVP Cloud Native session is on day3 so it would be great if we can finalize 
our WS07 section before that
I have also added a note 'draft version' so it gives us an opportunity to 
refine our mind.

Thanks in advance for your support.

Best regards
Catherine

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