[Winona Online Democracy]

Good for you, Dan...you are absolutely right.

Bob Sebo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Dittmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Winona Online Dem." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Winona] Our Civil Rights


>
> [Winona Online Democracy]
>
> I'm not sure where the quote below comes from, but it certainly can be
> reapplied here:
>
> If you don't believe in free speech for your enemies, you don't believe
> in free speech at all.
>
> On another note, what happened to "Innocent until PROVEN guilty?" This
> concept is what makes this country great. Remove that, and how are we
> different from any other industrialized nation?
>
> On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 02:50 , Chris Nelson wrote:
>
> >
> > [Winona Online Democracy]
> >
> > Ya!  I also feel sooooo bad for the mass-murdering thugs that are the
> > henchmen for Osama and his screwed up idea of religion even though they
> > are
> > responsible for the killing of 4,000+ innocent people.  What about the
> > people that died that day?  Didn't they have any rights?
> >
> > One step short of Marshall Law?  I don't think so!  President Bush
> > violating
> > the 5th and 6th Amendments?  I don't think so!  We are talking about
> > TERRORISTS THAT WANT TO KILL YOU AND ME.  We aren't talking about a
> > shoplifter.
> >
> > It is time people start standing up for the RIGHTS of VICTIMS and never
> > forget all of the families (including children and unborn children that
> > will
> > never meet their father) that have been forever changed for the worse
> > because of a few nuts . Ya, I feel soooo bad for terrorists and Osama.
> >
> > Chris Nelson
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Winona] Our Civil Rights
> >
> >
> >>
> >> [Winona Online Democracy]
> >>
> >> I couldn't agree more with your concerns or those expressed by Mr.
> > Thompson.
> >> As an attorney, it scares the heck out of me that the government is now
> > putting restrictions on the attorney/client privilege and allow them to
> > listen to what have to date been privileged conversation. This idea
> > flies
> > directly in the face of the 5th and 6th Amendments to the US
> > Constitution.
> > It is clear that attacking-President Bush and Mr. Ashcroft (sp) have no
> > respect for this document.
> >> As for the military tribunal idea, I think it is another effort by this
> > administration to use the tragedy of September 11th to further erode our
> > Civil Rights as citizens of this once-great nation.
> >> As I understand this executive order (signed by a President who was not
> > elected to anything higher than a figure-head governor of a Southern
> > state)
> > he, or any future President, can make the decision unilaterally who is
> > or is
> > not a terrorist and can be "tried" by a military tribunal.
> >> Further, there is apparently no end-date for this order so it could
> > conceivable be in effect long after this illegal war against terrorists
> > has
> > ended. It is one step short of declaring Marshall law and I cannot
> > believe
> > that the citizens of this nation are not up in arms about this
> > usurpation of
> > our basic Constitutional rights!
> >>
> >> Dean Lanz
> >> Attorney-at-Law
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Dan Dittmann: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> How often do you say to yourself, "I didn't do it; so of course, it
> didn't get done?"
>
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