heres a thebian devotion Idea I came up with that might work for this 
discussion. feel free to use it and then teach it to me 
 
 
Ectoplasm Armor                                                       (12 exp)
 
Prerequisites: Cattiveria 3, Resilience 1 (possibly Thebian 1, Hauberk of blood 
ritual)
 
The necromancers of the Sangiovanni family are not known for there prowess in 
combat with mortals, other Kindred, or even with ghosts, but some of the 
members of the Black Ring have found a way to combine the healing power of 
Cattiveria and the prowess of Resilience to help shield them from the damage 
that the enemies they deal with can dish out. 
 
By activating this permutation of the blood the necromancer can shroud himself 
in a thick, grey, smoky mist that acts as an armor against all attackers.  
 
Cost: 1 willpower
Roll: Intelligence + Occult + Cattiveria
Action:  Instant 
 
Duration: 1 Scene 
Roll Results:
 
Failure: The Armor fails to activate. 
 
Success:  The kindred envelops himself in a thick cloud of smoky, gray, mist of 
ectoplasm,  that clings to his person acting as a personal armor for a scene. 
This power adds as many health level boxes as the level of Cattiveria the user 
possesses.
 


Greg Daniels
US2003092221
VST Requiem -(MS-001-D) Bloody River 
http://cam-wiki.org/index.php?title=Starkville%2C_Mississippi


 
"I rest my case on this: In a country of lost souls, rebellion comes hard. But 
in a religiously oppressive city, where half it's population isn't even of that 
religion, it comes like fire." - Matthew Lillard (Stevo, SLC Punk)

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Brian Misamore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Brian Misamore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [OOC Sangiovanni] Re: OOC mechanics and the family.
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 5:53 PM

>What if you were able
> to use some rituals on your Zombies like Hauberk of
> Blood, Legionnaires Blessing, Lash Beyond Death,
Hauberk specifically says it protects Kindred in the description.
Legionnaire's Blessing can bless any weapon, but zombies can't use
them.
And Lash Beyond Death specifically says it affects the caster.

Brian Misamore
US2002022359





      
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