don't know where the answer is, other than "learn text". I hope that
with examining what our true outputs are, we can focus on those, and
find a path that works for the community.


What does that mean? What is a "true output" and how do "we"
differ from "the community"?

Euh... just what I said: what are we producing? I tried to list some

Well I guess I had difficulties understanding why you would talk
about "true" output (vs what? perceived outputs?)

concrete outputs. And "we" certainly means community. Not sure why you would
think I define "we" any other way??

That was probably another misunderstanding from your wording.
My bad.

Thanks for the clarification
Frank

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