On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Graham Lauder wrote:

> On Sat, 2011-07-02 at 12:57 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Yesterday I got tired of the look of people.mdtext in the project site. It 
>> was so 1990s. So, I've improved the look via css and adding defined widths. 
>> I guess I am volunteering for the item on 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted
>> 
>> Several of us have been surveying the existing openoffice.org website on 
>> several wiki pages mostly linked to from:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Site-PPMC-Plan
>> 
>> With over 140 "projects" in openoffice.org, it will be important to agree to 
>> a mapping which reduces the granularity by more than an order of magnitude. 
>> The page http://projects.openoffice.org/ is a good and clear way to start - 
>> and pretty much fits the structure on 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Planning
>> 
>>      • Product Development
>>      • Extension Development
>>      • Language Support
>>      • Helping Users
>>      • Distribution
>>      • Promotion
>> 
>> I think that these groupings will help us easily have a rule about which 
>> projects end up on http://openoffice.apache.org/ or stay on the successor 
>> http://*.openoffice.org/.
>> 
>> Projects have "webcontent" and/or "wiki" content. On openoffice.org there is 
>> a generally consistent look. There are exceptions which are marketing sites 
>> like http://why.openoffice.org/. The difference is glaring because that is 
>> the first big button on the main site.
> 
> The why.openoffice.org page was done as a marketing tool independently
> of the main website and the Website team under the marketing project by
> one of the members of the marketing team and for a specific marketing
> campaign.  Andre's design was so good we left it as is, however there
> had been intention to change it suit the overall look but volunteer time
> availability to do it was lacking.  It still served a purpose as a very
> useful marketing resource so pulling it down just because of a
> non-standard look was never an option.

Understood, thanks for the detail. It is a nice and tight presentation.

>> Webcontent is available via svn - "svn co 
>> https://svn.openoffice.org/svn/${project}~webcontent ${project}" (Thanks 
>> Marcus Lange)
>> 
>> Some projects are huge and others small. I downloaded several:
>> 
>> wave@minotaur:~/ooo-test$ ls -1
>> development
>> documentation
>> download
>> projects
>> www
>> 
>> The size is 2.7GB.
>> 
>> It would be good to come up with a scripted way to convert existing 
>> webcontent to either mdtext, an altered html, or specialized javascript and 
>> css. It is likely we can adapt the content and use the Apache CMS to wrap a 
>> standard skeleton.
>> 
>> Regards, Dave
>> 
> 
> 
> Much of what is on there is legacy material that could be seriously
> pruned.  For instance all the old Marketing material that is V2.0 and
> earlier could be deleted.

What would you do to the main openoffice.org site if you were starting from 
scratch?

Regards,
Dave


> 
> Argument could be made for the marketing material to start from scratch.
> Personally I'd like to see a whole new branding and get shot of the old
> stuff, make the first Apache release: V4.0 (Historically, significant
> global change has meant a whole number change in the version: V2 new
> codebase, V3 Apple compatibility. I think this is significant enough:
> pre V4 = LGPL license, V4 and later = ALV2)  From a marketing POV it
> gives us a handle to hang a campaign on.  
> 
> Cheers
> GL
> 
> -- 
> Graham Lauder,
> OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
> http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html
> 
> OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.
> 
> 
> 

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