Hi Ross,

Le 8 juil. 11 à 00:41, Ross Gardler a écrit :


I'm not sure to fully understand. Can you explain more please ?

Sure.

When typing my email about encouraging the project to offer "easy tasks" with mentors it occurred to me that the education project may already have some efforts to help new developers become engaged with the project.


Indeed, we are used to such easy tasks, and even more (me since 2006, and Education Project since end 2007). And I confirm, EducOOo would be glad to contribute (as I told Martin Hollmichell and Ingrid vdM privately)

We use to work with students, and their schools, and we try to explain how we hacked the code online (yet on the wiki).

Important : the OpenOffice.org developers often helped us, and they had a big role in the story too. Philipp Lohmann, Stephan Schaefer, Franck Schonheit, Thorsten Behrens, Stephan Bergmann, Herbert Düer, Mathias Bauer, Thomas Lange, and a lot of other Sun/Oracle devs were fantastic with us. Apologies for the one I forgot to mention :-/

The initial idea was : instead of diving with boring QA, prefer have Fun with a forked version of OpenOffice.org, for instance OOo4Kids or OOoLight (no Java, 40% lighter than OpenOffice.org), and imagine new features, hack and so on.

When the code desserves it, we propose it for integration (can be refused of course). OOo4Kids and OOoLight are LGPLv3, but we have no problem to relicense the code for Apache OpenOffice.org. The annotation mode, made by students from Ecole Centrale Nantes, and reverserd to OpenOffice.org



If that is the case then I obviously don't want to step on your existing work through the ComDev work, I'd rather work with you to make the efforts complimentary.



There is place for all, and we'd be glad to work with you. FYI, I already contacted Martin Hollmichel in this sense, and he's preparing a list of tasks.

The collaboration could start with developers able to work with us. e.g. one or two hour from time to time, join our IRC channel, and answer students questions, and so on, participate to IRC meetings, when designing a feature, and so on.

We currently have 11 students from Epitech Paris who applied to EducOOo, for the period july to early december (yes, now ...). This is too much for us, because we have not the resources to mentor them all (5 for sure, max could be 6 or 7), but it would be great if other OpenOffice.org developers agree to join the effort ? (Any candidate to help us ?)


More information on our list of schools who participated is available here -> http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/WelcomeStudents

The features are proposed by teachers or the students, and when everybody agrees, we implement what we can. Once implemented, we explain the changes in the code, and put it online (our wiki). Some examples :

New Start Center : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/ NewStartCenterBehavior Toolbars and levels : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/ ToolbarsAndUserLevel
New cursors :  http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/AddNewCursors
Protected preferences : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/ PasswordProtectedPreferences (the page has been seen more than 27,000 times ... )

+  Online ClassRooms http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/ClassRooms

and so on

As you can see, the list of possibilities is very long, there is a lot to do with schools, and the Education Project + OpenOffice.org is really a good compromise to introduce FOSS.


Regards,
Eric Bachard



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