Hi Dennis,

Am 23.07.2011 21:35, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
Ingrid,

You can help me.

I am having difficulty finding a concrete case for completely open-ended 
invitation of Initial Committers.

I don't know whether there are any, I haven't searched.

Suppose you were on the Initial Committer list.  You had not sent an iCLA. You 
had not responded to a request to take that step as part of being established 
as an official committer for the Apache OpenOffice.org podling.

If that was you, what would you be holding onto by wanting that invitation to 
be permanent without taking the steps that go with accepting it?

I simply see no reason to shut the door. People might be in the middle of paper work, people might be ill, people might be on a journey around the world. You also may have send the invitation to the wrong mail. None of this would cause me to consider to withdraw someones committers rights, so why should it cause me to consider to withdraw someones committers invitation? Would you suggest to withdraw committer status if a committer is off for 1 months, two months, a year?

If that was you, what would have this be rude or an insult that you be expected 
to take the initiative and show up as an established committer.

The expectation to show up is of course not rude. Invitation and expectation is nice! :-)

But threatening with an arbitrary deadline is somewhat strange, really.
And requesting for a time estimation about such complicated things as legal paper work, well please.

Why would you not be taking committed actions to create and grow the Apache 
OpenOffice.org project?


I think enough reasons have been given for people beeing late.

A misunderstanding was clearly between posing a deadline on paperwork or only posing a deadline on people who are not responsive at all. So making a difference here is a step of coming together! :-)

Now for the not responsive ones, I still won't close the door for them, but I seem to be a minority here and will adhere to principles of democracy. But please give them as much time as possible and make really sure that you use correct email addresses in the reminder mails.
It would be a pity to have upset people because of this.

Thanks,
Ingrid

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