> -----Original Message----- > From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2011 8:54 AM > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: How to handle the downloads? > > Am 08/04/2011 12:38 AM, schrieb Gavin McDonald: > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > >> Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2011 6:45 PM > >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: How to handle the downloads? > >> > >> Am 08/03/2011 02:17 AM, schrieb Gavin McDonald: > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2011 9:40 AM > >>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > >>>> Subject: Re: How to handle the downloads? > >>>> > >>>> Am 08/02/2011 11:03 PM, schrieb Gavin McDonald: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2011 12:55 AM > >>>>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>> Subject: Re: How to handle the downloads? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks for you note. Then we should implement adownload method > >>>>>> withthe fllowing order: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1. User clicks on the One-Click-Download URL and get the software > >>>>>> (like today on "download.openoffice.org"). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2. If not, he can use alternative download links (like today on > >>>>>> "download.openoffice.org/pther.html"). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 3. If a special mirror has to be used, the list of all available > >>>>>> mirrors > >>>>> will help > >>>>>> (like today on > > "http://distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/#mirrors";). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Latest with step 3 all users should be able to download something. > >>>>> > >>>>> Yep, all possible here at the ASF right now. > >>>>> > >>>>> See www.apache.org/mirrors for our equiv of step 3. > >>>> > >>>> I've already understood that you don't want the OOo mirrors but > >>>> that we should use the Apache ones. ;-) > >>> > >>> Hi Marcus, > >>> > >>> don't count me as 100% on that yet, I want to know more about the > >>> OOo mirrors too. > >> > >> OK, if you have already questions just ask and I will try to give answers. > > > > not yet, working on it, > > > >> > >>> I just didn't want to be maintaining 150+ projects on one mirror > >>> system and > >>> 1 project > >>> on another mirror system. maintaining one mirror system is easier, > >>> so If that is possible and our mirroring system can cope, and we can > >>> maybe coax a few more mirrors our way all the better. Some of our > >>> existing mirrors may decide that bandwidth is too much and leave, so > >>> we need replacements. > >> > >> I don't know about bandwidth but to get an impression about size and > >> amount please have a look here. This mirror has rsync'ed everything > >> that > > was > >> released by Sun and Oracle: > >> > >> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/openoffice/ > > > > thanks, > > > >> > >>> If it makes sense to try and merge these somehow, I want to pursue > >>> that avenue. > >> > >> A first step should be to look for doubles. > > > > yep, > > > >> > >>> We may need both for some time, we can not put non ASF releases on > >>> our mirroring system anyway so what we are trying to resolve is from > >>> our first ASF release onwards. > >> > >> Hm, when looking at this mirror it is already hosting non-Apache software: > >> > >> ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/ > >> > >> Software from Apache and, e.g., OpenOffice.org is just a subset > >> within > > many > >> other projects. > > > > Sorry, that isn't what I meant. The mirrors get their content from us > > right, we can not provide them with non-asf released software to put > > on their mirror copy of our dist tree [1] . They are of course welcome > > to provide non-asf mirrors as most of them already do. > > > > [1] - http://apache.org/dist/ > > > > Gav... > > OK, let me try again. The mirrors can distribute what ever they want but > within the Apache subdirs only ASF licensed software is allowed. Have a got it > right now?
Spot on. And the only way non ASF licenses software will get into the Apache subdirs is if we put it there in the first place. A project makes a release and puts the files of that release into a specific area of svn. That then syncs up with our main dist area, mirrors then sync up from there. IOW, the pre-existing mirror system for OOo needs to continue and be referred to in documentation and 'older releases' page so that folks can get pre-asf released versions of OOo from there. Only new releases from now onwards developed here at ASF will be put into our release/dist areas. HTH Gav... > > Marcus > > > > >>>>>> Am 08/02/2011 04:38 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock: > >>>>>>> A consideration...I for one have a need to be able to select my > >>>>>>> mirror. My office's firewall blocks certain domains and > >>>>>>> websites, especially those recognized as "hosting" or "file-sharing" > sites. > >>>>>>> It does not, however, block .edu sites, so when I download an > >>>>>>> Apache product I select a university mirror. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Other users may have similar constraints. If OOo's download > >>>>>>> process is going to tie into Apache mirroring, please don't > >>>>>>> completely eliminate the capacity to select the mirror. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Don
