Am 08/06/2011 02:45 PM, schrieb Eric Hoch:
Hi Armin,
Am Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:56:45 +0200 schrieb Armin Le Grand:
Am 05.08.2011 22:22, schrieb Eric Hoch:
Hi Armin,
Am Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:01:52 +0200 schrieb Armin Le Grand:
Am 05.08.2011 18:47, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
The only problem with [2] is that it assumes conversion is
possible/permissible. That is not always the case. Now, I do
not know there is anyone who has that problem and is (or will
soon be) unable to run older software that accesses those
formats, but we do need to be careful in considering this.
The current 3.2 version would be the last one to have both, how
ling will it be installable and runnable on evolving systems? Can
only be guessed, but usually it's another 7-8 years.
I have no numbers, but how many people still have files in old
formats? With introduction ODF years ago it was preselected as
the standard.
I don't know how it is in the country you live in but here in
Germany documents, especially tax relevant ones from companies,
must be archived for 10 years or even longer. 2011 minus 10 years
makes it 2001 and in 2001 there was no ODF.
Germany, too :-)
:-)
I think something like old file formats have to be deprecated one
day, and in my opinion there was a quite long
conversion/transition period now. As others already mentioned,
binfilter is not even installed by default for 3.2 (if I remember
correctly), and I have not seen any complaints about that yet.
Neither do I but that doesn't meant that there aren't any out
there.
To All: Does anyone use one of the old binary formats or knows
anyone who does actively nowdays? Please answer if you know about
something like that, this would be valuable input in this
discussion.
Not used actively but needed in order to open old documents which
cannot be converted into ODF because of the above reason that you
cannot rule out that you make 100 out of 1000 or the other way
round.
Use the last version doing both, the first AOO release as it
looks. It's not even released, so there will be some time where
it will be installable.
Sounds good. We need a clean statement that this will be the last
version coming with import-/exportfilters for the following
formats. Please make sure that you convert documents of need into a
new format or archive them probably into PDF/A, etc... This should
be written so that non-tech users understand it.
OK, I've setup a reminder to write such a text:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-PPMC-Plan
Marcus
One concrete question: DO you have documents in the old formats
or is this just hypothetical..?
Yes I have documents in the old format but they are privat, not tax
related and already to 99% redone in the new ODF Format. The most
important document in the old format I have is my Diplomarbeit
which for whatever reason converts badly into the new ODF format. I
think I'll need to spend a day or two on the reformatting of the
document.
I also assume that come the ongoing inspection of documents and
used software at my new job it is possible to find documents
needing binfilter, if for whatever reason someone used StarOffice
instead of MS Office.
Eric
