On 07/08/11 23:38, Terry Ellison wrote:
I've just finished a 1st cut of outstanding tasks and issues for the Wiki.

See https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Community+Wiki+Services

Comments gratefully received on this DL and/or on the page itself.

Thanks Terry

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Thank-you all for your replies so far. I will work through and respond to individual points in thread at the appropriate branch, but here I just wanted to propose that we divide the Wiki migration into two separate but task areas:

   * Migration of the infrastructure service.  What drives this is if
     Oracle decides, say, that the current hardware is being turned off
     on the XXth of Aug, then we need to move the service to a box in
     Apache.org.  The issues here are largely technical heavily involve
     the infrastructure team.  We need to be able to move quickly on
this and few of the DL contributors have strong opinions here. They just want the 'magic to happen'. Yes, there are a few
     decisions to be made, but the questions are a little esoteric for
     most DL members.  I offer to continue to lead this work area.

   * Migration of the wiki content / policy.  Here we have a range of
     widely and strongly held views and the DL seems to be acting as a
debating shop without convergence to consensus on some points. This debate could still be continuing in 3 months time as far as I
     can see.  I don't want it to get in the way of infrastructure
     migration -- except when /absolutely/ necessary.  It also makes
     sense to break this task area further if this means that we can
     make progress in some areas, even if stalled in others.


Whilst I don't want to make specific points here, let me use one as an example of how we can sentence issues to keep these task areas separate: Rob made some important points about branding. Yes these need documented, resolved and actioned, but from an infrastructure viewpoint I don't really care this branding process can be encapsulated and detached.

   * We make the pre-prod wiki available to the "branding team"
   * The branding team agree and implement the branding changes that
     the project wants to have in place for cut-over day.  In practice
     this could involve the creation or modification of content in the
     Main, File, MediaWiki, OpenOffice.org Wiki and Template Namespaces
   * I can use standard MW audit functionality to capture a list of all
     such pages, and then standard MW export functionality to create an
     XML.GZ dump of this work.
   * We then import the "live" wiki as part of cut-over.
   * I then reimport the above XML.GZ to reapply the branding changes
     to the migrated wiki.

So my suggestion is to keep the infrastructure and content issues separate. I can lead on the first. We need someone who can lead on the second. His or her strengths should be that he/she has experience of delivery -- that is can make things happen -- and has a good working knowledge of more advance MW features such as templates, etc. I would think that either Drew or TJ would be well qualified, but that is only my personal suggestion.

Please use my reply to Rob to discuss branding specifics and this branch to discuss the concept of this split and the resourcing of this second task area. Better still create a separate topic on this point.

Again, thanks everybody.  //Terry

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