Hi Rob,

On Friday, 2011-08-12 13:29:00 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:

> > Before taking that step, it's worth asking if the project actually
> > has a need for web analytics yet. They were included on OO.o site
> > mainly because Sun was using the data as part of its business
> > metrics. It's not obvious that the same need exists in AOOo.
> 
> I think it is an essential tool to optimizing the web experience for
> our visitors.  It is part of a feedback loop where we look at the
> traffic stats, how our website is actually being used, the
> demographics of the visitors, etc., and then iteratively improve the
> website to make it more useful.

So first question is: analytics yes or no, which affects also the
Privacy Policy.

> On the question of Piwik (open source, used, for example by
> LibreOffice) versus Google Analytics,  I'm very familiar with Google,
> so I could help more there.  But I don't have an informed opinion on
> the virtues of each.  I've never heard of Piwik until today.

The big difference is that with Piwik the data collected stays inhouse
at Apache, whereas with Google it goes to Google that does whatever you
don't know. This again implies that at Apache measures must be taken to
protect the privacy of collected data. The German "Landeszentrum für
Datenschutz Schleswig-Holstein" (center of data protection) has a few
documents about tracking [1], unfortunately only in German, why Google
Analytics doesn't comply with the German data protection law [2] and how
Piwik can be configured to be used in compliance with the law [3].

[1] https://www.datenschutzzentrum.de/tracking/
[2] https://www.datenschutzzentrum.de/tracking/20090123_GA_stellungnahme.pdf
[3] https://www.datenschutzzentrum.de/tracking/piwik/

  Eike

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