On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Simon Phipps <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> If you have withdrawn that proposal, then please state so and share >>> with us with your new proposal. I'd love to hear it. >>> >> >> >> I still believe we need a realistic discussion around those topics, Rob. >> Your view appears to be that proposals are immutable and to be accepted or >> rejected rather than considered, adapted and evolved. I just gave you >> proposals for discussion and I invite you to attempt positive and >> constructive discussion around them rather than conducting endless >> standards-committee-points-scoring. >> > > Could you point us to your proposal? Or should we still be looking at > your earlier proposal, the one I linked to? When you have a new > proposal, I'll be glad to comment. > > But note that a proposal to discuss something isn't really a proposal. > A proposal is a proposal for a particular action. We should try to > limit undirected chatter on this list. This is a working list, for > AOOo dev. We need to preserve focus. >
Should note also that proposals of the form "I think we should do X" are a cheap, a dime a dozen, and rarely progress the project. Proposals of the form "I would like do X" are golden and move the project forward. That is the "do-ocracy" aspect of the Apache meritocracy. > > -Rob > >> S. >> >
