Hi Dennis,

On Tuesday, 2011-08-23 12:25:59 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> Complete loss of subject heading is a minor annoyance?

It happens only if there's something that looks like an email address in
the subject, how often does that happen except when discussing about
*@ooo mailing lists?

> How about the mangling of the To address?  When I get one of these,
> I cannot use any rules because the To address that my mail client sees
> is not that of ooo-dev but some hacked-up pseudo gmane address.

There's always the List-Post header containing the list's mailto
address, generated by the mailing list software. That's reliable.

> I think folks having an NNTP and newsgroup-ish way of reading ooo-dev
> is a great thing.  It duplicates the archiving, though.

I wouldn't consider that as a disadvantage. There are several archives
of each mailing list spread across the net anyway. So chances are better
that anyone searching for something will find the correct answer.

> But more than
> that, I would rather it be done well and not in a way that disrupts
> the original mailing list.  Especially not that.  If it worked well,
> I would be tempted to use it.

It does work well, just not with the special case of a mangled subject
if ... see above.

> I have a different question.
> 
> According to the information on GMANE, it takes someone who claims to
> be an administrator to offer up a mailing list for aggregation there.

I haven't seen that. http://gmane.org/faq.php says

| If you have any doubts about whether the mailing list wants to be
| carried by Gmane, ask the people on the mailing list first. Or at least
| the mailing list administrator.

Apparently the person who added this list didn't have any doubts..

> Who did that and where was it discussed here?  I suspect I may have
> seen an off-hand mention but I had no idea what the consequences were
> at that point.

I don't remember having seen something like that. If there was, I would
had said yes, go ahead.

> Finally, wholesale harvesting of someone's e-mail list raises serious
> netiquette issues far beyond concerns for top posting, CC additions,
> etc.

I don't see where netiquette should be involved here. This is a public
mailing list, not any private mail forwarded or archived. Thousands of
public mailing lists, including Apache's, end up in one or more
archives.

> When did we consider what we expect of that and also what does
> it not being on Apache infrastructure raise as a concern?

Why should it raise any concern?

  Eike

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