I am in the same boat; attempting to step in and aid as he's left. Dunno what thread contains this information, there's a lot to go through.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi again-- > > Uh...any possibility you could dig up this e-mail of procedures and > wiki-ize > it? Or maybe I could go looking for it and get this done tomorrow assuming > I > could make sense of it. <groan> > > Truthfully I hadn't been keeping up with Terry's posts. I did see he was > leaving but didn't know when, and well...confusion. It is truly critical to > finalize the wiki cut-over -- the sooner the better in my mind. > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton < > dennis.hamil...@acm.org > > wrote: > > > Terry had prepared an analysis of what is involved here somewhere. It > was > > a pretty long e-mail with decision points and also previous e-mails on > what > > was required. > > > > - Dennis > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pedro F. Giffuni [mailto:giffu...@tutopia.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:36 > > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][wiki] Migration (was Re: Who Wants to build > > OpenOffice?) > > > > Hello; > > > > I have not been to involved with that process lately but > > my understanding is: > > > > - Infra requires a update to recent version of the > > MediaWiki software. > > - It would be preferable to have no hacks or no > > non-standard extensions. > > - They want to have documentation concerning the > > maintenance of the system. > > > > Additionally they would prefer to use a FreeBSD jail, > > but this is not mandatory. I was considering stepping > > in for this last issue but I have no MediaWiki expertise > > and having me as another guy learning is probably not > > helpful at this time. > > > > Pedro. > > > > --- On Tue, 9/6/11, Matt Richards <mricha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ... > > > Well, I thought Terry has resigned > > > from the project according to another > > > thread, leaving the wiki migration at a bit of a stand > > > still. Figured I > > > could step in and pick up where he left off on this. Am I > > > able to, as a > > > non-contributor reach out to Apache Infra on this (from > > > what I read it seems > > > the infra ML are for existing contributors only)? Not sure > > > who all is > > > involved at this point. > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > My understanding that it really is a test build > > > and it has *not* been > > > > maintained in synchronization with the OpenOffice.org > > > operating version. So > > > > if that system started to be used as a production > > > instance separate from > > > > OpenOffice.org, it would be a fork and there would be > > > some issues with that. > > > > > > > > The plan was to put the existing wiki into read only > > > and then do a final > > > > export. That export would be used to build the final > > > ooo-wiki. The next step > > > > is to change the DNS. Once DNS is complete branding > > > changes will be made. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I don't believe that would be an acceptable > > > arrangement for Apache > > > > Infrastructure, for important operational > > > reasons. Someone from there can > > > > explain the rules for having a MediaWiki server being > > > sustained. > > > > > > > > Terry has said he will finish the work. It is possible > > > that Drew can do it. > > > > I know that Terry was documenting everything for > > > Infrastructure. > > > > > > > > Perhaps you should ask infra what they will require > > > given the events of the > > > > last days. > > > > > > > > I also wonder what moderation and administrative > > > situation exists on the > > > > Wiki and if there is any overlap beyond Terry and Drew > > > between these two > > > > groups. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > PS. A lot of us are older, let's have some > > > consideration for other's health > > > > and stress levels. > > > > > > > I totally understand real life/health needs to come before > > > any of these > > > types of projects. No problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dennis > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Matt Richards [mailto:mricha...@gmail.com] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 08:32 > > > > > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][wiki] Migration (was Re: > > > Who Wants to build > > > > OpenOffice?) > > > > > > > > > > As far as point 2, I thought Terry had completed > > > the all of the migration > > > > > work and all that was left was to create a final > > > export and cut over the > > > > DNS > > > > > entries? In my mind, if there is already a lot of > > > content on the MW and > > > > the > > > > > Apache Foundation allows us to continue to use > > > it, why not? > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Pedro F. > > > Giffuni <giffu...@tutopia.com > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >>> Hmm ... > > > > >>> It looks like I missed where the > > > decision to use MediiaWiki and > > > > >> deprecate confluence > > > > >>> was taken. I guess it was arranged with > > > infra as long as MW is up to > > > > date > > > > >> and > > > > >>> the extensions are documented. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I am not complaining though: it sounds > > > like lazy consensus in action > > > > plus > > > > >> we can > > > > >>> always change mind later on and try the > > > conversion script. > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> Do you have a > > > counter-argument? I think the factors are > > > at play were: > > > > >> > > > > >> 1) We have a huge amount of content already > > > in MediaWiki from the > > > > >> legacy project. Although it might be > > > converted to Confluence, the > > > > >> effort would be large. > > > > >> > > > > >> on the other hand > > > > >> > > > > >> 2) MediaWiki was not supported by Apache > > > Infrastructure and getting it > > > > >> supported and migrated would require a lot of > > > admin work > > > > >> > > > > >> So far, it looks like the admin effort has > > > made more progress than the > > > > >> translation effort. Maybe > > > not a final decision, but that is how it > > > > >> looks to me today. > > > > >> > > > > >> -Rob > > > > >> > > > > >>> Pedro. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > --Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --Matt > > > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > "Music expresses that which cannot be said and > on which it is impossible to be silent." > -- Victor Hugo > -- --Matt
