You are the perfect being the enemy of the good. Thanks for -1 all of Kay and my work. You've done this before. I've said it is not perfect and that I am working on it. We discussed the terms etc last week. I said what I would do. I didn't do it this last weekend. I had no real energy for AOOo.
If you want to negotiate a test Apache CMS location and URL with Apache Infrastructure go ahead. No more AOOo today. I am a volunteer and it is not pleasant to go through these little explosions all the time. Regards, Dave On Sep 12, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I think it is inappropriate to make web visible duplicate and different pages > that are presently available via the OpenOffice.org. There is much more to > determine before the migration of the OpenOffice.org content and services is > staged. There is no worked-out consensus on how that will progress through > integration so that user-facing OpenOffice.org and project facing > openoffice.apache.org are separated appropriately, if at all. > > More important to me is that fact that those pages don't "belong" to us. > > I repeat my concern that it is *very* inappropriate to inject unapproved > Apache Terms of Use and, worse, apply Apache Copyright notices in ways that > have not been reviewed by legal FIRST. This kind of action is not > appropriate for Commit then Review, not even unilateral lazy consensus, since > it is a concern of the Foundation, not merely the Apache OOo Podling. > > If there is to be a test site to establish that there is a working migration > approach for static materials, it needs to be set up that way. There is no > need to modify content on such a site beyond what is technically required to > demonstrate workable migration. > > I am very concerned that material is being combined under > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/, such as the material at > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg WACK de/, > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg WACK ar/, > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg WACK lt/, > and so on. > > I also believe that demonstration of capture should not be comingled with > modifications. I urge that any modifications that cannot be done on > OpenOffice.org where it is now hosted be deferred beyond when the > OpenOffice.org domain and the hosted pages are all in Apache custody. > Modifications at OpenOffice.org itself seem best limited to those minimum > adjustments necessary because of separated services (such as migration of > Bugzilla which has left broken material behind on OpenOffice.org). > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: mar...@apache.org [mailto:mar...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 05:40 > To: ooo-comm...@incubator.apache.org > Subject: svn commit: r795631 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg: ./ > content/openofficeorg/aa/ content/openofficeorg/af/ content/openofficeorg/am/ > content/openofficeorg/ar/ content/openofficeorg/docs/governance/ > content/openofficeorg/dz/ content/openofficeo... > > Author: marcus > Date: Mon Sep 12 12:40:18 2011 > New Revision: 795631 > > Log: > Publishing merge to openofficeorg site by marcus > > Added: > websites/production/openofficeorg/content/openofficeorg/aa/ > - 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In these circumsta > operation.</p> > <p>What this means is that they make a proposal and state that they will > start > implementing it in 72 hours unless someone objects. 72 hours is chosen because > -it accounts for different timezones and non-apache commitments.</p> > +it accounts for different timezones and non-apache commitments. If the 72 > hours are > +touching a weekend it would be wise to extend the timeframe a bit. This will > ensure > +that people can participate in the proposal even when they were offline over > the > +weekend.</p> > <p>In this approach the original proposal is not insisting that there is a > discussion > around their proposal, nor are they requesting that the community explicitly > supports their actions. However, this differs from assuming lazy consensus > >
