I think this is a wonderful idea and I would like to add an additional item -- can we get a list of folks who have submitted iCLAs toward this project, assuming they've filled in the "notify project" item?

Another great mystery that might be nice to have unveiled.

and yep, I tried to get a list of subscribers to "dev" and no go for me. :(

On 10/10/2011 08:03 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
<orcmid note="more comments inline">

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 06:10
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton<orc...@apache.org>  wrote:
<orcmid note="Responses to Rob's questions in-line" />

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 17:48
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster

On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton<orc...@apache.org>  wrote:
[ ... ]

1) What page will contain this information?
<orcmid>
  I have no preference.  It could be on the AOOo web site.  It could be on the
  current podling incubator status page,
  at<http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html>
</orcmid>


I like the idea of using the podling's status page, since we need to
update that page in any case when a new committer comes on board.

<orcmid>
    I concur.  A separate comment indicates that this is the practice
    for other projects, and it is the ideal case.  It is also possible
    for us to maintain that page with some degree of automation.
</orcmid>

2) Is updating the page a manual or automated process?
<orcmid>
  It would have to be semi-manual, I think.  There is an automated
  list of ooo-private subscribers, but not everyone on that list is
  on the PPMC.  I also have a list that identifies everyone on the
  PPMC that I update as part of the committer/PPMC intake workflow.
  The spreadsheet with that list is in a private-to-the-PPMC SVN
  repository area.
</orcmid>


I thought only list moderators can get the list of subscribers.  Are
you a moderator of ooo-private?
<orcmid>
    No, I am not a moderator of ooo-private.  However, the automated
    crosscheck.html report that Sam Ruby's script puts into the ooo-PPMC
    private SVN confirms who is on ooo-private as part of the cross-
    checking.
</orcmid>

That approach could work, especially since we're supposed to subscribe
to that list using our Apache alias.

3) Who will do the updating?
<orcmid>
  I will do it initially.  I will document the procedure so anyone on the PPMC
  could take it over.
</orcmid>

4) How are you determining who is on the PPMC?  Based on vote?  Based
on subscribing to ooo-private?  Based on an authorization file?
<orcmid>
  I am not aware of anything like an authz for PPMC members.
  I use the fact that they are invited or elected to be on the PPMC and
  they have actually established themselves on the PPMC by subscribing
  to ooo-private.  I propose that someone who has been invited to the
  PPMC, is established as a committer, and has not subscribed to ooo-
  private to not be established as a PPMC member since they have not
  arranged to follow PPMC discussions and participate in voting.
</orcmid>


What about that authorization file for the private SVN repository?
Would that yield a list of PPMC members?  Or is that really just a
committers list?

<orcmid>
   I don't have visibility on any authz related to the ooo-PPMC private
   SVN.  It is a sub-tree of repos/private/pmc/incubator/ and I don't know
   how it is authorized.
</orcmid>

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