On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > These are my personal observations and I will report them to the Forum > Administrators also. Any of the Forum operators can chime in here. > > There is not a formal vote that I can see. There was a poll that ended up > 63% in favor, 37% opposed on the English Language forums, and I understand > that there were wild variances on some of the other NL forums, including > nobody in favor in one case. > > The reality seems to be that the move is accepted as happening. It comes > down to knowing what Forum operators will stick around, which ones will > declare themselves interested in the iCLA -> committer -> PPMC progression, > etc. >
The move either happens or it doesn't. We can't migrate it 63%. Is it worth making the plan explicit, e.g: We're going to migrate the lists now, since the Oracle servers are going down on Friday. All existing moderators/admins are welcome to continue participation. Those who chose not to continue will be replaced immediately after the move per the Forum's existing mechanisms for choosing admins and moderators. > I doubt that the picture will be completely clear until the move is > accomplished and folks can raise their heads after the current emergency. > Well, one reason it is an emergency is we wasted almost a week in an unnecessary show vote that ultimately brought no additional clarity. Let's hope there is still time to make a clean transition and avoid outage for the users. > Meanwhile, I have asked the Forum Operators to please identify who is raising > their hands to take the Apache plunge. I've also asked *them* who on the > PPMC is already known there that could be useful as Apache Observers (if not > already among the Forum operators). This would be to serve as consultants to > them and especially help communicate/build-bridges/support with the Native > Language forums and those operators, I think. > > It might be good to find out who here on the PPMC has interest in being > Apache Observers: Forum registrants who have access to the administrative > sections and can also post there, but not take administrative actions. (This > is separate from current PPMC members who are already among the Forum > Operators and have whatever privileges come with that.) > > This would relax the need for them to rush everything through at once while > having someone "on site" to observe the Forums and their orderly operation. > This could satisfy the PPMC that there is adequate oversight in these early > days, even if only on an interim/transitional basis. > My main concern is that we don't have any forum that has no one there helping users, removing spam, etc. When will we know if that is the case? > I'm going to report this same perspective there. > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 20:00 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal > > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Alexandro Colorado <j...@openoffice.org> > wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>> > The vote to accept the proposal for governance and operation of the >>> OpenOffice.org Forums ended at midnight, Friday 2011-10-21T24:00Z. >>> > >>> > There were a total of 27 +1 votes cast. There was one "+0" vote and no >>> -1 votes. >>> > >>> >>> I don't want to assume, so can some one tell us whether the forum >>> people have also voted to accept the proposal? >>> >>> -Rob >>> >> >> I see some of the mods but not all of them. >> > > mods == moderators? So the vote is still going on? > > -Rob > >> -- >> *Alexandro Colorado* >> *OpenOffice.org* Español >> http://es.openoffice.org >> fingerprint: E62B CF77 1BEA 0749 C0B8 50B9 3DE6 A84A 68D0 72E6 >> > >
