Hi Simon; I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. Ethos is something that goes well beyond a license, and once you read the iCLA its not an imposible thing to ask ( you signed it), and its surely not what SUN had in place.
That said, and its something I have argued about publicly with Rob, while the iCLA is a requisite to become a committer, it is not a requisite to contribute. Furthermore, once we start doing releases (and trust me, we will get there) they are likely to start including AL2 code anyways. Am I naive? Yes. I was never part of the previous OOo community led by SUN so perhaps not having that trauma helps me see things a lot simpler than they are. There is an evident lack of confidence in us over there and as I said before, in private, we cant start activities like a shared security list if there is no confidence first. I stand to the principle that we are neutral, and that every vendor or community member is free to join or leave whenever they want Pedro. --- On Tue, 10/25/11, Simon Phipps <si...@webmink.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 > at 8:20 PM, Pedro Giffuni <p...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > If libreoffice encourages, but not requires, AL2 > > for stuff in the core package, that would be a huge > > advance to get a bit nearer both camps. > > Given licenses are the expression of the ethos of a > community, it's disingenuous and divisive to assume any > community will drop its governance approach like this, > Pedro. It translates as "the path to collaboration is > your surrender; we can negotiate once you've done > that". You make it sound so innocent, too, by missing > out the other requirement that Apache would have for > contributors to sign an ICLA and thus join Apache :-) > > > > S. > > >
