Hi all, On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Donald Harbison <dpharbi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Martin, >> >> On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:51 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> > >> > On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: >> > >> >> On 2011-11-16 3:26 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >>> Hi Martin; >> >>> >> >>> --- On Wed, 11/16/11, Martin Hollmichel wrote: >> >>> ... >> >>>> On 11/16/11 6:33 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> >>>>> On 16 November 2011 16:56, Martin Hollmichel >> >>>>> <martin.hollmic...@googlemail.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>> ... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> What kind of a "release" are you talking about. OOo >> >>>>> releases can only be made from the Apache Software >> >>>>> Foundation. Perhaps you are planning a downstream >> >>>>> release that conforms to our trademark policy. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Please let us know your plans. >> >>>> we're offering to provide an interim release of >> >>>> OpenOffice.org 3.3.1 with a joint messaging of ASF and Team >> >>>> OpenOffice.org. This would fill the gap between the 3.3.0 >> >>>> release from beginning of this year (with some known severe >> >>>> issues) and the first AOO release in the future. I'm >> >>>> convinced that this proceeding will help strengthen the >> >>>> trust in OpenOffice.org / AOO. >> >> >> >> Based on the very little bit of information provided here on the Apache >> lists, I can't see how your plans would possibly be approved by the ASF. >> >> >> >> Obviously, having more information about your plans, and being able to >> see your work in the form of patches or commits to the AOO podling's >> Subversion tree would be a great start to be able to do this kind of work. >> >> >> >> So my first suggestion is to start doing some of the actual coding work >> here, on the ooo-dev@ list. Then, work with the podling to show the PPMC >> that this is a good idea, and deserves to proceed together with the >> excellent progress the PPMC is making on the 3.4 release. >> >> >> >> Then, if the PPMC has a clear consensus to work with such an interim >> release plan, we can discuss any trademark, legal, or press/messaging >> questions you might have. >> > >> > What is difficult for me to understand is that both Stefan Taxhet and >> Martin Hollmichel signed up as Initial Committers to the Apache project, >> but have never signed an iCLA. There are many more than four people >> involved. >> > >> > The Team OpenOffice website must immediately acknowledge that >> OpenOffice.org is a registered trademark of the Apache Software Foundation. >> > >> > The Team OpenOffice site must recognize the Apache project. >> > >> > I don't think a joint statement is appropriate without properly >> respectful actions beforehand. >> >> The following text on the teamopenoffice.org site is still in place! >> >> > Your donation counts: Save OpenOffice.org! >> > The world needs a free, open source office software – but the genuine >> article is under threat. We don’t want to let this happen! >> >> Ridiculous! openoffice.org is the Apache project - the genuine article is >> not under threat. >> >> It has been a month since: >> >> >> http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/213997/apache-disavows-team-openofficeorg-ev >> >> I really feel that the individuals on the project want to welcome Team OOo >> to the project, I know I do. >> > > Absolutely agree. These guys are very welcome to align with this project. > >> >> It is my feeling that Team OOo should make a proposal to the AOOo PPMC >> about how they wish to use the OpenOffice.org brand. >> >> +1 We will continue to ask for this, but in the meantime, the web site > language you cite above must come down. There is no 'threat' to > OpenOffice.org.
If we (Apache) use OpenOffice as product name and Apache OpenOffice as project name, then we can give Team OOo the OpenOffice.org brand and trademark? Thanks, khirano
