Hi Rob,

I really didn't know what to think about Dennis's email. It seems peripheral to 
the issue.

On Nov 26, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Nov 26, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Simon Phipps <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> It's not at all obvious to me why one couldn't just take a LibreOffice 
>> release such as 3.4, created from the same source outside the Apache 
>> community, and apply the same logic
> 
> No official response has been given to this proposal. Any "logic" you
> see is individual opinion on a discussion aimed at achieving
> consensus.

I think Dennis really jumped ahead with his comments.

>> to it as is being applied to this 3.3.1 proposal. With the added bonus that 
>> no-one much has to do any work apart from change the splash screen.
>> 
>> S.
>> 
>> [for the humour-impaired, while this is making a serious point, it is not a 
>> serious suggestion]
>> 
> If TDF wishes to make a serious proposal they are welcome to do so.

Oh, more humor :-)

Best Regards,
Dave

> 
>> 
>> On 25 Nov 2011, at 23:56, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>> 
>>> There are many details to figure out to have a maintenance release of 
>>> OpenOffice.org 3.3.0.
>>> 
>>> This situation reminds me that here have been privately-produced and 
>>> distributed editions of OpenOffice.org.
>>> 
>>> The ones in my experience were produced by Novell.  They tracked *existing* 
>>> OpenOffice.org releases but were built by Novell with Novell features that 
>>> were not in the corresponding OpenOffice.org release.
>>> 
>>> The screenshots give some sense for how this was done:
>>> 
>>> 1. There was a Novell download site for the distribution.  (Notice how the 
>>> files were identified).  The code differences had to be maintained in 
>>> parallel and re-integrated with an OO.o release for each corresponding 
>>> Novell release.
>>> 
>>> 2. The splash screen on startup of the release identified a Novell edition.
>>> 
>>> 3. The About box identified the Novell edition.
>>> 
>>> In other respects it was *all* OpenOffice.org and neither Sun nor Novell, 
>>> just OpenOffice.org.  In particular, the support locations were 
>>> OpenOffice.org, and registration was at OpenOffice.org.
>>> 
>>> It looks like what is thought of as OpenOffice.org branding did not appear, 
>>> though I haven't looked closely nor tracked down the last-ever Novell 
>>> edition.
>>> 
>>> When I think of there being a Team OpenOffice.org edition 3.3.1, this comes 
>>> to mind.
>>> 
>>> I would expect the OpenOffice.org site to be the user-centered support 
>>> location, with the Apache OpenOffice bugzilla used for bug reports just as 
>>> it continues to be used for OpenOffice 3.x bug reports.  I would expect 
>>> registration, if done at all, to be done the same way as for continuing 
>>> downloads and installs of OpenOffice 3.3.0, though there is a problem with 
>>> where that goes now.
>>> 
>>> If the Team OpenOffice.org contribution of a maintenance release goes 
>>> forward, I think there should be strong acknowledgment and a way for 
>>> individuals to learn more at the Team OO.o site.  But for it to be in the 
>>> OpenOffice.org development line, it needs to operate as if it was produced 
>>> in the same manner and produced in the same way as 3.3.0 with adjustment 
>>> for the current realities.
>>> 
>> 

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