Regarding (2), I meant sample documents that have the embedding in them.  They 
will have to be hand-crafted because no ODF-supporting product produces them so 
far.

There is an SVN at OASIS for collecting samples, but only OIC TC members are 
committers [;<).

The Plugfest site has room for uploads and contributions, and a Wiki.  Wait a 
little bit for this topic to trickle over there.

For this to work, there needs to be a document that uses the font, the font 
itself, and the PDF, as Gianluca suggests.  Then the document that embeds the 
font can also be created.  The fonts must be free to use and distribute for 
these.  The documents need to be simple enough so that there is no issue with 
their widespread use and it is easy to "patch in" the embedding.

This was discussed on the OIC TC call today and there is definite interest in 
this topic.  The DRM issues will crop up, but for the initial test cases, fonts 
with non-permissive licenses are not going to be used.  It is possible this 
will be discussed on the ODF TC call on Monday, 2011-12-19 1430Z, as well.

There needs to be a roadmap somewhere.  I see further issues such as MIME type, 
connection with metrics, and so on also mentioned in i#20370.   The idea is to 
start with the least that can possibly work and unravel a shared understanding 
among ODF-supporting products, including what happens when embedded fonts are 
not supported or not used for any other reason.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Gianluca Turconi [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 02:18
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FONTS] Inclusion in ODF (was RE: old colored vs new monochrome 
icons)

Il giorno Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:47:02 -0800
"Dennis E. Hamilton" <[email protected]> ha scritto:

>  2. Some (more) proof-of-concept sample documents that demonstrate
> such embedding need to be collected as test vehicles.  [Any solution
> applies to all ODF formats - text, spreadsheet, presentation, ... -
> that have a font section and definable styles in the format.]
> 
>  3. It needs to be determined what happens with ODF consumers when
> such unexpected documents are encountered.

I've a fantasy novel where I used a runic font for the introduction of
different chapters. When I sent it to my literary agent in ODF format,
she called me back asking "Why have you put random letters at the
beginning of each chapter?" :'(

Unfortunately, I cannot share this document, but I can surely ask in
the Italian Community for more sample documents, just tell me if you
think is needed.

It would be useful to have a PDF with font included or an image of the
expected document alongside what the users really see when they exchange
documents without font inclusion.

IMO, there should be a online place where people can put these sample
documents.

There is a OOo bug about this topic too:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20370

Regards,

Gianluca
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