On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> I see a number of factors related to the bug report, below:
> 
> 1. The high search-result placement for a pay-for-download site
> 2. The prospect that the download is not authentic
> 3. The collection of a payment for the download
> 
> It is unclear what appropriate actions are available.
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> INFORMAL THOUGHTS:
> 
> 3. Technically, there is not much to be done about (3) beyond education and 
> also anything about the absence of any support in exchange for the payment.  
> (If the download is unmodified or has a thin façade with all of the support 
> links intact, it becomes a problem in many ways for the project and 
> peer-supporting users.)  This is what makes folks indignant, but it is the 
> least preventable so long as there is no misrepresentation.  And even then 
> ... .
> 
> 2. That is a more-worrisome concern to me.  This impacts packaging of 
> distributions, how they are authenticated, and what they incorporate that 
> directs users to authentic sources of support and also future versions.  It 
> would seem that there are measures to be taken here, along with branding.  I 
> don't quite know how that might impact downstream developers of co-branded, 
> re-branded binary distributions (e.g., for a specific platform, with 
> particular bundling, etc.)  Apache branding requirements and ensuring that it 
> is easy to honor them in a non-Apache binary release is going to take some 
> head-scratching.

I believe the Foundation is working on digital signatures with certificates. 
The projects releases will be signed and verifiable. Someone will need to 
discuss this with infrastructure. 

Regards,
Dave

> 1. Gaming SEO is something that it should be possible to combat and mitigate. 
>  Having the site in our hands can help there.  It is important to work it for 
> NL pages as well as the main get-your-free-downloads-here pages.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:42
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 118700] New: fake openoffice site
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118700
> 
>             Bug #: 118700
>        Issue Type: DEFECT
>           Summary: fake openoffice site
>    Classification: Infrastructure
>           Product: www
>           Version: current
>          Platform: All
>        OS/Version: All
>            Status: UNCONFIRMED
>          Severity: major
>          Priority: P5
>         Component: openoffice.org website general issues
>        AssignedTo: [email protected]
>        ReportedBy: *redacted*
>                CC: [email protected]
> 
> 
> Hello there,
> I'm writting from Spain.
> I was trying to download OpenOffice. A search engine(Bing)gave me this address
> http://office.version-es.com/
> I found out it's not an official node, it charges 14€ to activate the 
> download,
> throug two Sms,charges 7.08€ each.
> Don't know if you can do anything to prevent other people to be fooled or
> whether there are more webs for other languages. It's very sad some people
> dishonour your proyect and name through such bussines.
> Thank you for attend my complain.
> Snorquel
> PS.- i'm unsure about who to this "issue".In case you are not involve in
> solving this problems, I beg you help my message to reach someone who can do
> something.
> 

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