I agree with Kay that one reason someone may want to contact us is because 
there is a problem with the web site itself.  I also think that going directly 
to the mailing list page is perhaps too abrupt.  Some free analysis from the 
top of orcmid's head:

For issues about the site(s) itself, I think a bottom-of-page link is fine.  It 
might go to another web page that refines the contact based on particular cases 
(two that should always be prominent and straightforward are for the site and 
for anything to do with security concerns -- but not directly to ooo-security.).

With user issues, taking people directly to bugzilla is effectively a giant FU 
for ordinary users.  A bullet item that links to how to file a bug and also 
links directly to bugzilla is good, so experts don't have to do the drill-down. 
 (Might need a branch for those needing a bugzilla account too.) [Something 
like this might help refine the security case as well.]

Then I think there can be explanation that all other support is peer support 
from other users and developer volunteers, with some indication about the 
options (wiki, forums, web site, mailing-list subscriptions, and bugzilla) and 
how to search/explore/choose among them.  This would probably be right after 
something about web site issues and security concerns.

Third tier on some of these might be FAQ that provide more detail and help 
users address common concerns.  (I.e., what to do when an AV product says their 
download is infected, what the project does to ensure the integrity of binaries 
and how to find those to be confident in them, how to check their authenticity, 
etc.  That's been going around lately.)

Finally, of course, there is always the welcoming of those who might want to 
themselves contribute to an aspect that is a concern or interest for them.

I suppose I should put myself in this last category, although I am not prepared 
to figure out how to work on such a page [set]. Sorry.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Kay Schenk [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 09:43
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [WWW] Feedback/"contact us" about the website link needed...

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:

[ ... ]
> Another way to think of it:  99.99% of the time, if a user actually
> needs to contact us, then the website has failed its purpose.  We can
> only handle 100 million users if, for the vast majority of cases, they
> can self-support themselves via the website's navigation and find what
> they want.  So the challenge here is to handle the exceptional 0.01%
> of cases, without becoming the path of least resistance for the other
> 99.99%.
>
> -Rob
>

Rob--

I understand what you're saying, believe me. I guess I feel we should
provide an easier avenue for people to report problems with the site
itself. I'm also aware that if I just put in a simple link with a "mailto"
tag, many folks won't be able to deal with that because they won't have a
"default" e-mail client.

How about a "Contact Us" link that directs them to our existing "Mailing
List" page --   http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html.
We could add a bit more description to the "Development Mailing List" to
indicate that it would be used for submitting questions/problems about the
web site.

Or do you think it would be best to direct them to BZ?


> > --
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Follow your bliss."
> >         -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
>



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