On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
<[email protected]> wrote:
> It is one thing to encourage users to remove their older versions.
>
> It is another thing to automatically remove them and, along with that, 
> features that they are relying upon.
>
> I don't think the ability of OO.o to replace versions in the same line (i.e., 
> 3.* -- and 3.* did not remove 2.* and 1.* as far as I know) is the proper 
> precedent.  I think how LibreOffice endeavored not to do that with their 
> first and subsequent releases is the proper precedent.  This is not about 
> wearing the crown, it is about serving the user community.
>

Again, your opinion carries as far as your willingness to code an
alternative install approach.

-Rob


>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 10:09
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [EXTENSIONS][RELEASE] (was RE: Calling all volunteers: It is 
> time to test)
>
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> If there is no solution for extensions, Apache OpenOffice 3.4 early 
>> incubator releases should not overload prior versions of OO.o.  I recommend 
>> that AOO 3.4 install in its own locations and not do anything that would 
>> prevent side-by-side functioning.  (My recommendation would be that it do 
>> that anyhow.  But with known breaking of an important down-level feature, 
>> that becomes imperative.)
>>
>
> In general, it is important for OOo 3.3 and earlier installs on
> desktops to go away. Old releases increasingly become security
> hazards, especially if they are no longer being actively maintained.
> We do a great service to the community in general if we overwrite them
> with the AOO 3.4.  This is true even given the inconvenience the user
> experiences from the need to reinstall extensions.
>
> In any case, I think the overwrite is fine.  It is what OOo 3.3 and
> OOo 3.2 did as well by default.  We can document in the install
> intructions how this can be overridden.
>
>> I think there should be OOo-dev releases only until this is handled as well. 
>>  It is now clear that integration has problems and there is no reason to 
>> provoke more of it.
>>
>
> If you are volunteering to re-write the extension manager client
> database support, please speak up and let us know your plan.
>
>> I also suspect that it is not a good idea to rebrand the Extensions and 
>> Templates pages at SourceForge quite so strongly, since the only extensions 
>> that are there now are for OO.o (and perhaps LibreOffice).
>>
>>  - Dennis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 02:06
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Calling all volunteers: It is time to test
>>
>> On 3/2/12 6:38 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
>>> On 2012-02-29 8:18 AM Rob Weir wrote:
>>>> Once you have installed, launch OpenOffice and look at the Help/About
>>>> box. If the revision shown there matches the build you installed
>>>> (e..g, "r1293550") then the install was a success. Please send a short
>>>> note to [email protected] telling us what platform and
>>>> scenario you installed (fresh install, upgrade, install next to
>>>> LibreOffice, etc.). This will help us understand what scenarios have
>>>> already been attempted and which have not.
>>>
>>> Using MacBook with OS X version 10.6.8
>>>
>>> Downloaded OOo_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
>>> Successfully installed replacing installation of OOo 3.3
>>>
>>> Installation deleted all of the extensions in my user profile. Quit OOo
>>> and replaced extension folder in my profile from my backup copy.
>>> Restarted OOo 3.4 and extensions deleted again. Will try installed
>>> individual extensions later today.
>>
>> Hi Larry,
>>
>> unfortunately extensions get lost because of the dropped Berkeley DB
>> which was used to manage installed extensions. We haven't found a simple
>> solution to migrate it. This will be documented in the release notes.
>>
>> Sorry
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>>
>>> All .odt files I opened worked. Was able to work with and save in
>>> Writer. The one database I have works. Will do further testing later.
>>>
>>
>

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