On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Kay Schenk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Kay Schenk <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Kay Schenk <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> We currently have a web page that lists all of our mailing lists: >>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, the native language lists that we're creating recently are >>>>>>> not there. And I think adding them to that page would not be the >> best >>>>>>> approach. I wonder if it would be better to highlight these >>>>>>> communities on their own page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So something like this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On our podling page here: >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Add new page under Community called "Native Language Communities" or >>>>>>> maybe something a little shorter. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This sounds like a lovely idea! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On that page, explain a little what these groups are and are not. >>>>>>> They are not separate Apache projects, but are "interest groups" or >>>>>>> "language sections" within the AOO project, concentrating on native >>>>>>> language support, localization, marketing efforts, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then have a table listing the languages and the mailing lists. We >>>>>>> could also have links to the website, e.g., de.openoffice.org. If >>>>>>> there are official social media accounts used by that community (a >>>>>>> Facebook page ot Twitter account, for example) we could link to >> those >>>>>>> as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It might be easiest, considering the state we're in with the NL >> mailing >>>>>> lists right now, to document these on a wiki page, and just link to >> THAT >>>>>> from the new NL info page you suggest. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wiki is fine also. Personally, I prefer the Apache CMS and mdtext >>>>> over Confluence wiki. It is easier to make a good looking page that >>>>> has a consistent style with the rest of the site. But as Emerson >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by >>>>> little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a >>>>> great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself >>>>> with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think today in hard words, >>>>> and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again, though it >>>>> contradict every thing you said today." >>>>> >>>>> So inconsistency is fine with me as well. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Well it would certainly be easier for the mailing list "requestors" to >>>> update a wiki page once their request had been processed, and then link >> the >>>> web site page *TO* that I think. I will start this page, and hopefully >>>> folks will update. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I've seen messages/setups go by for the new mailing lists, but >>>>> honestly, I >>>>>> have not been paying close attention. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think we have current or requested lists for Japanese, German, >>>>> Italian, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese and French. >>>>> >>>> >>>> This is what I've found so far... >>>> >>>> ooo-users-de >>>> ooo-general-ja >>>> ooo-geral-ptbr >>>> ooo-general-es >>>> ooo-utenti-it >>>> ooo-progetto-it >>>> >>>> OK, I'll get started on this. >>>> >>> >>> Well this took a bit more time than I expected, but we now have a "Native >>> Language" area on the podling web site -- >>> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ >>> >> >> This looks good. Thanks. >> >>> Since we have few native language mailing lists right now, I guess not a >>> problem with just listing them here. And thanks to Kazunari Hirano for >>> pointing me what had already been discussed and the planning wiki page. >>> >>> I have yet to edit the existing Native Language page on the web server. >>> Instead of just deleting the current project leads, though, I'm thinking >> of >>> just changing the header to "Former Project Lead" in case someone (else) >>> want s to contact that person. Thoughts on this? >>> >> >> Are we sure that the former leads actually want to be contacted? It >> may be more useful for a visitor to be directed to your new page. >> > > I guess I was thinking if someone new from one of the areas was thinking > about stepping up they might want to contact the former lead -- but, then > again, maybe not. Really I don't have a problem with removing the former > project leads. Louis is still the point guy on the info page, so maybe > that's good enough.
There is a link[1] on this page. When you go to it is outdated and replaced by a wiki page. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/l10n/languages.html Regards, Dave > > >> >> -Rob >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> If someone could create this new wiki page, I would happy to create >> the >>>>>> front-end for it (and figure out how to modify the project menu). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> MzK >>>>>> >>>>>> "Follow your bliss." >>>>>> -- attributed to Joseph Campbell >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> MzK >>>> >>>> "Follow your bliss." >>>> -- attributed to Joseph Campbell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> MzK >>> >>> "Follow your bliss." >>> -- attributed to Joseph Campbell >> > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > "Follow your bliss." > -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
