On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 20:00 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
> On May 26, 2012 11:54 AM, "drew" <d...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 11:25 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
> > > Yes, that's true and is the point I made, in response, plus we
> downplayed
> > > the mentor role. But remember, I've written open letters, blog posts,
> > > computerworld articles and spoken to reporters too. The point is to have
> > > *more* committees speaking with their own voice.
> >
> > Hi Ross,
> >
> > Then I would suggest you simply stop - it seems rather simple.
> 
> Of course. Will we then have silence?
> 
> Oh, and your welcome.

I do appreciate what you did, and I would not be bothered if you did
more to be honest, but I am ready to hear from others about more
substance at this point.

For instance:

How are strategic goals going to be set?

What plans are there for addressing the changes happening with user
computing platforms (web, mobile), or will they?
 
There is a whole slew of real questions I don't hear being addressed = I
see Kevin talking about a UX team and being chided for it, yet I read in
emails that a QE lead is already selected, and I wonder - when did that
happen?

I read a few sideways remarks about patches in the LibreOffice group,
removing dead code or instance - something that was talked about for
years at OO.o but always no solution for lack of bodies - well, ok make
your cracks but I want to know then how is this group going to deal with
that, or will it?

Put another way, it seems to me that most of the talk, indeed the work,
is still reactive and not yet proactive and I would really like to see
that start to change.

//drew


> 
> Ross
> 
> >
> > //drew
> >
> > >
> > > Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
> > > On May 26, 2012 9:38 AM, "Roberto Galoppini" <rgalopp...@geek.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Ross Gardler
> > > > <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote:
> > > > > +1 to a return to a focus on the community members.
> > > > >
> > > > > After Rich's interview with me another mentor pointed out that I've
> done
> > > > > more publicity around AOO than the rest of the community put
> together. It
> > > > > was pointed out that this might be making the mentoring look more
> > > > important
> > > > > than the coding. Not a good thing.
> > > >
> > > > Actually your interview came after a couple of interviews to community
> > > > members and templates' creators. I'm sure Rich will be more than happy
> > > > to keep interviewing community members, please let us know who wants
> > > > to be featured on SourceForge community blog.
> > > >
> > > > Roberto
> > > >
> > > > > More people have to step up and provide material for the project to
> use.
> > > > > There are people ready to turn it into content and there are
> milestones
> > > > to
> > > > > hang these things from.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ross
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
> > > > > On May 25, 2012 1:45 AM, "Donald Harbison" <dpharbi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Thursday, May 24, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org
> > > > >> <javascript:;>>
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Kay Schenk <
> kay.sch...@gmail.com
> > > > >> <javascript:;>>
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > On 05/24/2012 11:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> Just checking the numbers:  we appear to be at 1.8 million
> for
> > > > AOO
> > > > >> 3.4
> > > > >> > > >> install downloads.
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> It might make sense to put out another story when we hit 2
> > > > million.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > why not! :)
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > OK. I'll work with Don on this.    But after this I suggest we
> only
> > > > >> > > note the downloads at 5 million intervals.  Otherwise we will
> spend
> > > > >> > > too much time writing news articles and too little time
> improving
> > > > >> > > OpenOffice.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > this definitely makes sense...
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > We might note that June 1 is the first anniversary OpenOffice
> with
> > > > >> Apache.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> My birthday is June 2, so I'll be sure to note other milestones!
> :))
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Maybe the new DL stats announcement, if the timeline is right,
> might
> > > > make
> > > > >> > note of this and include a mention of how successful this new
> > > > >> > environment/arrangement has been for OpenOffice. Just a thought.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> IMHO, we need to return focus to the need to profile community
> members
> > > > so
> > > > >> we better know each other. I have a short piece on Dave Fisher
> ready to
> > > > go
> > > > >> in June. Let's work up more of these....please.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Louis and Nancy had volunteered previously. Anyone else want to do
> a
> > > > 'Meet
> > > > >> and Greet'?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > A good problem to have ;-)
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > -Rob
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >> Maybe this can be combined with the piece on Symphony that
> Don
> > > > was
> > > > >> > > >> working on?
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > yes...good idea!
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> -Rob
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
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