On 1 June 2012 09:50, Jürgen Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > On 6/1/12 9:47 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. >> On May 31, 2012 5:26 PM, "Pedro Giffuni" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
... >>> I admit this is very clear. I don't expect such development to be >>> a requirement for graduation but the transitory situation of a source >>> release that depends on carrying category-B tarballs in SVN now is >>> not really acceptable. >> >> I do expect this to be sorted out before graduation. > > it is addressed already > >> That might be as simple as getting clarity on the policy, it might be more >> than that. However, as a mentor I am uncertain about the practice adopted >> here and as such will not encourage the IPMC to vote for graduation until >> someone in the PPMC gets clarity. > > what do you expect? Someone needs to take out all the rhetoric and abstract concepts. Pick any one of the cat-b cases and describe *exactly* how it is addressed in that case and *exactly* how this conforms to documented ASF policies. Once we have clarity on the first case we can ask whether any of the other cases are different and then examine those. > Should we remove all this dependencies and make AOO more or less > unusable or better uninteresting for real usage? I am making no comment on what the technical solution is. I want to see consensus. Consensus cannot be gained by shouting at one another about vague examples. I want concrete examples on a case by case basis until nobody is objecting or until the issues can be clearly communicated to either the IPMC or legal@ so that a clarification of ASF policy can be made. > Anyway I think we tried everything to address this and we still work on > improvements step by step. If that is not enough for graduation I would > feel very unsatisfied. It is, and always has been, a condition of graduation that the IP situation in the project conforms to ASF policies. There is a question about these tarballs and it must be resolved before graduation. Ross
