On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>wrote:
> On 5 June 2012 21:34, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > * Issues for IPMC or ASF Board Awareness * > > > > - None > > What about the possibility of leaks and the damage this might do to > the community? > > You may have omitted it because you feel it is being handled OK and > that there is nothing really to report at this stage. If that is the > case then I would say that. The goal here is to give a heads up to the > IPMC/Board that there is a serious issue and that it is being dealt > with internally. If it is not resolved to the communities satisfaction > and escalation is the first the IPMC/Board hear of this that will be > considered bad form. > > You may also have omitted it because you are aware the IPMC and Board > are already informed. This was my assumption but I don't know that for sure. I will be happy to include the leak business. > This is true, but the board report is an > opportunity for those who are not satisfied with progress to raise > further issues and, if they so wish, escalate. I therefore try and > include all items that cause significant tension. Furthermore, it is > not uncommon for the board to ask a PMC chair to provide more > information if something like this is not included in a report (a > board member will often scan lists during review). They don't want to > have to do detective work but if it looks like an issue is being > ignored they will seek clarification. > > Note, the board reports are public so be sparing with details. yes, I know this... > The > IPMC/Board has access to the private archives if they want details. > From my last update to this list I think you could say: > > "Possible leaks of information from the ooo-private email list are > being investigated. Our first objective is to first establish if and > how leaks occurred. Once full details are available we will be working > to address the issue directly. No action is currently required from > the board and an update will be provided, at the latest, in our next > report." > I will include your wording on this. Thank you. > > > - We have improved to act more as a self organized project to address > > and solve project related topics (eg. budget transfer from SPI, forum > > moderation). > > There is certainly improvement but still the SPI issue is not > resolved, calling that out explicitly makes me thing the PPMC is > unaware of activity on this issue. This is falling between the cracks, > partly because a change in VP fundraising resulted in a further delay > after the issue seemed to be resolved on the SPI side. However, the > item was raised at the last board meeting and everything should now be > cleared up. I have it on my todo list to close this off, but that > would not be the PPMC being self-managing and nobody here has asked me > what needs to be done still (if someone could pick this up I'd be > grateful, just mail fundrais...@apache.org and ask if we are clear to > have SPI transfer funds). > > You probably also want to mention that the PPMC is starting to plan > for graduation. > Well I did mention that we were in the "discussion" stage on this, but I can be more explicit. > > Ross > > > -- > Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > Programme Leader (Open Development) > OpenDirective http://opendirective.com > Thanks for your comments, Ross. Much appreciated. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "Everything will be all right in the end... if it's not all right then it's not the end. " -- Sonny, "The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel"