KG01 - see comments inline On Wednesday, June 6, 2012, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Ross Gardler > <rgard...@opendirective.com<javascript:;>> > wrote: > > I move that there is no need to continue to fuel the fires of AOO vs > > LO. The PPMC is now effective at ignoring anti-AOO materials on our > > own lists. I suggest the PPMC should further silence inflammatory > > posts that are anti-LO on our lists. > > > > And what about negative posts about AOO? Shoul we "silence" those? I > hope not. Negative posts from users (within some bounds of decorum) > is valuable feedback to the project. I think we should value frank > discourse about the product and where it falls short. KG01 - Agreed. No wrong answers. Both positive and negative feedback help us understand if we are meeting our user's expectations. > > I don't think we expect users to be familiar with The Apache Way or > even mailing lists in general. We see all sorts of disorderly conduct > on ooo-users, from SCREAMING ALL CAPS, to flames, etc. Project > members, on the other hand, should lead by example, and focus on > constructive comments. KG01 - Agreed. Take the high road, acknowledge input, and lead by example. > So although I agree with your sentiment here, I think we need to be > very careful when considering "silencing inflammatory posts" in > general, since a ham fisted approach would also silence criticism of > AOO, which is valuable to receive. > > -Rob > > > > For example, a recent post on ooo-users said: > > > > "The LO guys should have thought about that before forking OpenOffice > > following Novell's siren's call. (remember the first major fork of > > OpenOffice was Novell's Go-OO which incorporated the MS OOXML > > support). > > > > In fact, it was their actions that killed the commercial prospects of > > StarOffice, which Oracle had renamed "Oracle Open Office" (without the > > .org)." > > > > I suggest that the ooo-users list is not the place for these kinds of > > opinions, regardless of their validity. This is especially true when > > they are made in response to a positive comment, which was "The main > > goal has always been to create the best Office suite possible - so > > let's unite around that." > > > > Our communities need to be welcoming. There is no chance of creating > > unity if disunity is the response. I'm not suggesting this be tackled > > onlist, that can be counter-productive too. I'm merely highlighting it > > and encouraging individuals on the PPMC who agree with me to consider > > sending a polite but firm request to stay focused on helping users on > > the ooo-users list. > > > > Ross >
