On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Ross Gardler <[email protected]> wrote: > The way to deal with these things is acknowledge the need to use the > qualifier. Where there is a reasonable argument (blog titles on the ASF > home page for example) undertake to improve things and move on. >
I updated the last couple of blog posts, to add the incubation disclaimer, the link to the podling website, or both. https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/5_million_downloads_of_apache https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/porting_apache_openoffice_to_solaris -Rob > These things come up occasionally when an interested IPMC member does a > review and sees things the rest of us missed. I brought it here in the hope > of preventing an IPMC mega-thread. Acknowledge it there, deal with it here. > > If it helps, I'm not worried about the logo thing, but that might be just > me. > > Ross > > On Saturday, 23 June 2012, Dennis E. Hamilton > <dennis.hamilton<[email protected]> > @ <[email protected]>acm.org <[email protected]>> wrote: >> I think it would be good and wait until the original reporter identifies > what the specific infraction is and what its cure is. One part of the > complaint is how AOOi is mentioned in tweets by @TheASF. Those are not, as > far as I am aware, anything under our control whatsoever. >> >> I would not dispense with full atom feeds. >> >> Having "(incubating)" used at the beginning of a post, even with a link > to what that entails, could be useful. Whether it needs to be in the title > or not remains to be seen. >> >> Of course, whatever the practice is asserted to be, it will need to be > honored by all incubating projects, of course. >> >> - Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir <[email protected]>@ <[email protected]> > apache.org <[email protected]>] >> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 08:40 >> To: ooo-dev@ >> <[email protected]>incubator.apache.org<[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Must use the incubating qualifier >> >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 9:53 AM, drew jensen >> <drewjensen.inbox<[email protected]> > @ <[email protected]>gmail.com <[email protected]>> wrote: >>> On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 09:51 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >>>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 9:48 AM, drew <drew@ <[email protected]> > baseanswers.com <[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 08:52 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >>>> >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Rob Weir <robweir<[email protected]> > @ <[email protected]>apache.org <[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >> > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Ross Gardler >>>> >> > <rgardler <[email protected]>@<[email protected]> > opendirective.com <[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >> >> It has been pointed out on the general list that AOO is not > always using >>>> >> >> the incubating qualifier. For example recent blog posts don't > include it. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > It is right there, first thing on the page, in a very large font, > for >>>> >> > every blog post: "Apache OpenOffice (incubating)" >>>> >> > >>>> >> >>>> >> E.g, : >>>> >> https://<https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/5_million_downloads_of_apache> > blogs.apache.org<https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/5_million_downloads_of_apache> > /OOo/entry/5_million_downloads_of_apache<https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/5_million_downloads_of_apache> >>>> >> >>>> >> Note the <title> of the page says "Apache OpenOffice (incubating)". >>>> >> Ditto for the largest (and first) header on the page. >>>> >> >>>> >> Looking at the general list, it sounds like NIck's issue was that > blog >>>> >> aggregators, such as used by Apache for generating content on the > home >>>> >> page are not picking up on this. >>>> > >>>> > Hi, >>>> > >>>> > Maybe, I just read the incubator list also I think Nick is saying that >>>> > _any_ time the phrase Apache OpenOffice is used it must have the word >>>> > incubating included, not just in the title. >>>> > >>>> >>>> But that's not the policy. The policy is that it must be called out >>>> as incubating at first mention in the document. >>> >>> That's what I thought also - I'm saying how it reads to me, that's all. >>> >> >> Maybe the key is to realize that when we publish a blog post, we >> publish two things: >> >> 1) A web page, which does IMHO have the correct incubation notices on it. >> >> 2) An Atom feed that will be used by websites and services outside of >> our immediate control, and which will not bring along the full page >> context from the blog. >> >> On the second one, I think the remedy might be get the incubation >> notice into the post ("entry") titles. It may be possible to do this >> automatically (per my previous post), but it could be done manually as >> well. >> >> -Rob >> >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>> > >>>> > //drew >>>> > >>>> > <snip> >>>> > >>> >>> >> >>
