Hi Björn,
On 03.07.2012 14:58, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
Hi Rob,
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 07:53:25AM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all,
back in my Oracle days I did some work in CWS swbookmarkfixes01 which would
be convenient not having to recreate. According to:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%[email protected]%3E
ownership of the CWS is now at ASF. So two simple questions:
Where do you read that? I don't see that statement. I see Andrew
saying, "We are trying to provide all of the Oracle owned content in
the OOo repositories." "Trying" is not the same as an SGA. I'm
trying to lose weight. But I can assure you my doctor will trust what
the scale says more than my stated intentions.
Your aggressive tone isnt helpful here, but if you want it like that -- fine:
If you are "trying" to clarify the situation, you fail badly. You can easily
correct that: Just state what exactly is covered by a SGA -- I can then ask
Oracle directly to grant the rights for the stuff that is missing. As it, you
make it appear as if the AOO project has no clue what parts of the old OOo code
it actually owns.
Come down a little bit.
I did not see any aggressive tone in Rob's reply.
He asked a question. Gives his view on the topic - more or less the facts he is
seeing. Then he uses a little story from his own life regarding term "Trying" in
order to express that measured numbers respectively contracts "count more" than
humans expressing their "Trying". I did not see any agressive words used by Rob
in the reply.
Best regards, Oliver.
- Is this (my) work in this CWS released under AL2 to the public already with
this?
- If not and I do the work to re-base this CWS against master, and have it
checked into an Apache SVN branch will the work then be immediately
available under the ALv2 license?
You say "(my) work". If it is indeed your IP, then you can do with it
as you wish, right?
No. If you nitpick, get your facts right. The work was created as I was a
german employee of Oracle. IANAL, but as Urheberrecht (copyright, the claim to
authorship) is inalienable in Germany. At that point in time, Oracle had the
exclusive right of use for the work, but AFAIK it is still _my_ work.
You could make it ALv2 with or without checking
it into SVN. But if it is not your IP, and your right to contribute
the code is questionable, then checking it into SVN would just provoke
someone to delete the code.
How about, instead of wasting posts with sentences with way to many
conditionals, you simply answer if this was covered by the SGA, so I know if I
should hassle Oracle with that again (which I might or might not do as the CWS
is hardly mission critcial). If I ask Oracle about this and it turns out Oracle
already handed over code to AOO, but they had to burn ressources on that
because AOO does not seem to be able to come clear with what it owns, that
would throw a rather bad light on AOO, dont you think?
But given the unconstructive reply here, I have to conclude AOO not even
slighty interested in my casual contribution.
Also, isn't this essentially the same question that was raised by
Michael Meeks a couple of months ago? At that point I think the
recommendation was for RedHat or SUSE or TDF to talk to Oracle about
this, since they are the rights owner.
Indeed this seem to be the way to go, I expect to receive a clear "yes" or "no"
from that big corporation sooner that from AOO. Kinda sad and disillusional
actually.
Best,
Bjoern
