@Rob,

Yes, I am seeing what you are seeing.

Concerning the ToU for the forums, it is the same as what was previously on the 
web site.  While there is a license grant for non-code and other places where 
no other license is applied, the license is also to "all Users".

@Rob, @Drew, @Kay

I created an issue that proposed a new terms of use that was consistent with 
the Oracle ones for ASF and would have not made this problem worse, as far as I 
can tell.  That was long ago and it went nowhere.  The JIRA issue is here: 
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-104>.  Here's the connected issue 
on our Bugzilla: <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118518>.  I 
came to our Bugzilla because LEGAL-104 can't have attachments.  The attachment 
on the Bugzilla provides a red-lined transformation of the Oracle ToU into one 
that could work for the forums, wikis, and web pages now under ASF 
custodianship.
 
It addresses some of the cases that Rob also mentions.  I stand by my analysis. 
 You might want to see how to carve out what you want from that, since it is at 
least a start and the places where further customization may be called for are 
all identified.

 - Dennis

Some months ago it was discussed with the ASF Board whether a privacy condition 
and safe-harbor setup was desired.  That apparently didn't get anywhere.


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