Hi Dennis, On Jul 6, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> @Rony, > > I have no intention to bash Java. > > However, the ability to support extensions and scripting including optional > reliance on a JVM hosting is not the same as reworking AOOi as Java-hosted > software. In fact, it is no longer to have a JVM to install AOOi (or > LibreOffice) and JREs are no longer distributed as part of the installs. No longer providing a JRE is more about the maturity and ubiquity of JVMs on consumer OSs. It is now a mistake and a security issue to try to install a particular version of the JVM. The recent JVM exploits on MacOSX should have motivated all OS providers to make available the latest secure version of the JDK. A decade or longer ago with the spotty and divergent Java support from major OS providers like Microsoft and Apple it was a different world. Wonder why Java is more of a Server success? Apache Hadoop, a Java based clustering system replaced faster, proprietary C++ clustered servers at Yahoo. There are 20,000 servers in their cluster. Why? In aggregate the Hadoop cluster is faster because it is more reliable. > I am not a party to any of that. I am simply observing it. Keep on observing. But join the party someday. Regards, Dave > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 07:26 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: OpenOffice in Java > > > On 05.07.2012 22:04, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 um 19:57 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > ... cut ... >>> 3. Are you aware that the tendency is to remove Java dependencies from >>> OpenOffice? I don't know the reasoning, but it is happening. > AFAICT there was quite an anti-Java stance before the OpenJDK came along by > different groups. > > Therefore, I was surprised to read this statement, because for quite some > time there has been no > "Java-bashing", which IMHO would just simply be stupid, unfprofessional and > actually harm AOO in > todays world. > >> really, I don't see it at AOO at the moment. I still recommend Java for >> extensions because it's >> much easier to develop and to maintain on all platforms. > +1 > > In addtion, the very important AOO scripting framework is totally Java based. > (BTW, this does not mean that one is only able to deploy Java-implemented > script languages, but it > means that it is very easy to add any Java-based scripting language in > addition to AOO. As another > example there is an oxt-package that adds the C++ implemented ooRexx > scripting language to AOO/LO > exploiting/using the Java based scripting framework, and it works well and > fast.) > > ---rony >
