On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Jul 7, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Dave Fisher <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I'd like to propose that the project consider a special level of > Committer called Translator. > >> > >> These individuals will need to meet the following requirements: > >> > >> (1) Sign an ICLA and have it on file. > >> (2) Be sponsored by a member of the PPMC. > >> > >> Once a sponsor is found. > >> > >> (A) The Sponsor starts a VOTE thread for Translator by the PPMC on > ooo-private. > >> (B) With a successful VOTE an Apache ID is requested. > >> > > > > I'd suggest just doing it by lazy consensus, without the ceremony of a > > vote thread, a discussion thread, a required mentor vote, cross > > posting to IPMC private and related overhead. In other words, treat > > it like the Subversion project does with its "partial committers": > > We can live with the extra formality until graduation. > > We agree that as a TLP this extra overhead is reduced in any case. > > > "A full committer sponsors the partial committer. Usually this means > > the full committer has applied several patches to the same area from > > the proposed partial committer, and realizes things would be easier if > > the person were just committing directly. Approval is not required > > from the full committers; it is assumed that sponsors know what > > they're doing and will watch the partial committer's first few commits > > to make sure everything's going smoothly." > > > > http://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/roles.html > > Keep in mind that this is a project that came to The ASF as an actively > working project. This arrangement was grandfathered into Apache Subversion. > > > > > >> The Apache ID is setup just like for a Committer except no SVN Karma is > granted. > >> > > > > Ehh, but don't we want translators to have karma to /ooo-site as well, > > so they can edit the website? So maybe enough to limit it to that? > > Or maybe it is not worth worrying about translators messing with C++ > > code. > > We do, but we also don't know how tied in pootle will all be and for > ooo-site anonymous contributions are not a problem - merit can be accessed. > We could think about moving the NL sites to a different directory structure to deal with more separate access along with the Pootle permissions. We would need to discuss if we think this is worth it at this point. > > > > >> The Translator would have access to pootle.a.o and people.a.o. > >> > >> Translators who earn merit can later be VOTEd into Committer and PPMC > roles. > >> > >> If the project wants to do this then I'll take it up with the IPMC to > see if it is an acceptable practice. > >> > > > > It appears to be acceptable for TLP's given the Subversion example. > > So worst case we just wait for graduation to make such changes. > > > > In any case, I share your goal of finding a streamlined way of giving > > Translators access to Pootle. > > > > Thanks for starting the thread. > Yes, thanks Dave. It would be a great help to find a more streamlined way of getting translators into the project. so, +1 from me on this > > You are welcome. > > Regards, > Dave > > > > > -Rob > > > >> Regards, > >> Dave > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "I would rather have a donkey that takes me there than a horse that will not fare." -- Portuguese proverb
