On 24/07/2012 23:56, drew jensen wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 14:25 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Kevin Grignon <[email protected]>wrote:
KG01 - see comments inline.
On Jul 21, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Kay Schenk <[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, shzh zhao <[email protected]>
wrote:
The best way is giving a user an option when installing the software,
in this step,let user enable or disable it.
KG01 - Perhaps we can include an 'enable' / 'disable' QuickStart option
directly in the Help menu on the main menu.
This location would ensure the commands persist, and are available in both
states.
Evoking the the quickstart menu option from the quickstart bar in the
system tray would serve as contextual, redundant access. Again, enabling
could be evoke by the commands in the help menu.
Well this is an interesting idea. I think this would be better placement
than where it is now -- Options -> Tools -> Memory.
I have it disabled on my version (and always have near as I remember) but I
do recall having a time trying to figure this out.
And, since I have had it disabled for ages, I don't recall if I got some
notice about it on "first" start up.
Well, I would not think this a good use of that top menu location. That
location seems a good place for the type of option that a user is likely
to toggle, with some frequency. The choice of enabling the quickstarter
is IMO not such an option - it is as best I can tell a one time choice
by most.
To be honest the only recollection I have of this is helping people turn
it off -because it caused either a problem with the JRE/Base (those
problems I think have been over for years now though) or during an
update of the full suite (still an on-going problem).
I can't recall one time that I've helped someone turn it on.
My .02 worth - turn it off by default and leave the option toggle where
it is - better yet, drop it completely.
//drew
I agree. I can think of plenty of cases on the forums where advice has
been provided to turn it off - but can't remember a single case of
anyone asking for it to be turned on. This might be a function of it
being on by default, of course. But in general i would say leave the
option where it is, but have it off by default. That way if required on
old hardware or something, the user can turn it on.
Dave.
+1 for this idea if it can be done easily...I don't know what's involved
so
it may not be possible for the upcoming 3.4.1.
2012/7/20 Andrea Pescetti <[email protected]>
Risto Jääskeläinen wrote:
Supposing that quickstarter is working without any faults there is
still
a time stealing hiding in it. Those users who use OpenOffice only once
and while lost a bit their working time every day they start their
computer and not use use OpenOffice at that session.
Yes, but what we should focus on is how easy it is for affected users
to
change behavior. And here having Quickstarter enabled by default shows
a
clear benefit.
Users who have Quickstarter enabled and wish to disable it must simply
right-click on the icon and uncheck "Load during system start-up". Very
clear and easy. This is probably what saved us from thousands of
reports
of
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=119102<
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119102>: for once, users
were able to figure out how to workaround a bug
themselves (of course, disabling Quickstarter was just a workaround,
but
it
worked).
Users who have Quickstarter disabled and wish to enable it must: know
or
imagine that it exists, open the Options, find it in the jungle of
options
(under "Memory", by the way)...
Since it is much simpler to disable than enable, and since most
clueless
users will benefit from having it enabled by default, I'd definitely
keep
it enabled. Especially now that the related bug is fixed.
Regards,
Andrea.
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