On 8/1/12 2:44 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Jürgen Schmidt > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to bring up a new issue for our upcoming release. Thanks to >> Ariel who brought this to my attention. >> >> It is related to our external tarballs where we never got a 100% clear >> answer. >> >> - we host them in ooo/ext_sources >> - Pedro has already move cat-b stuff to ooo-extras on apache-extras >> - these tar balls are not part of our src release, they are checked in >> there for convenience and when we started the project we had to find a >> place for them to move forward >> - the tar balls get downloaded on demand during the bootstrap process in >> our build process >> - but as fallback only if the original source is not available. >> - the svn Url is referenced in the external_deps.lst file which is part >> of the src release >> >> Our SVN Url will change if we potentially graduate. This change will >> break our src release. >> >> To avoid potential -1 votes from IPMC members or mentors for the 3.4.1 >> release and potential problems with our planned graduation I suggest >> that we fix this problem for 3.4.1. I hate to say that but it means that >> we have to rebuilt again. But it will avoid potential problems. >> > > So two issues: > > 1) Pedro's concerns on Category-b tarballs stored in svn > > 2) Infra concerns about a build system that "phones home" and > downloads additional files from subversion > > To resolve both issues we need to remove build dependencies on *all* > download dependencies on svn tarballs, not just category-b ones. If > there are only category-a ones we should move them to Apache extras as > well, right?
that is how I understand it now as well. We still have to improve to understand the not written down policies or to ask so long questions until we get clear answers. > > Or is this not an issue? I think that is an issue and that the reason why I proposed a further rebuild. I would like to avoid further fruitless discussion and to bring us closer to a release with no surprising negative votes. Juergen > > -Rob > >> The related issue is https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120425 >> >> This change will only affect the src release builds but we have to pack >> the office again to include the new version number. >> >> I will keep you informed >> >> Juergen >> >>
