On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Marcus (OOo) <[email protected]> wrote: > Am 08/18/2012 02:48 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: > >> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Marcus (OOo)<[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Am 08/18/2012 06:38 AM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna: >>> >>>> Marcus (OOo) wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 08/02/2012 02:12 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:37 PM, drew<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 18:28 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:24 PM, drew >>>>>>>> jensen<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 09:09 -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Kay; >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I did some basic update to the FreeBSD porting site sometime ago: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/freebsd/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The site doesn't seem linked from the top-level porting site >>>>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would prefer to spend my time on the code rather than on the >>>>>>>>>> release >>>>>>>>>> announcement, however feel free to mention explicitly the FreeBSD >>>>>>>>>> port. >>>>>>>>>> Just to make it clear: we still have some cleanup to do but the >>>>>>>>>> port is >>>>>>>>>> fully operational and FreeBSD users are fully aware that it's >>>>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>>> on FreeBSD releases. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pedro. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Pedro, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then for BSD it should be enough to just point to the page you >>>>>>>>> updated, >>>>>>>>> yes? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMHO, we should consolidate all the porting links onto that one >>>>>>>> page. >>>>>>>> That way it gives one clear place to link to in the announcement, >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> also a single place we can link to from other places in the future. >>>>>>>> For example, we should probably eventually have a link to the >>>>>>>> porting >>>>>>>> page from the download page. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hmmm - well, I'm just getting around to looking at things for this >>>>>>> evening. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looking at the page(s) now... *chuckling*.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This might not be the right place for what I thought was the task - a >>>>>>> list of existing known ports which are not part of the official AOO >>>>>>> release regiment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The porting page and it's associated pages seem more about the act of >>>>>>> creating a port, with >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/porting_overview.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/porting_implement.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> which starts off by pointing to this page: >>>>>>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Porting_Efforts >>>>>>> >>>>>>> and that offers links to places such as >>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/udk/cpp/man/cpp_bridges.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So do we really want a page for listing existing non-official ports >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> are known, a simple information service for our users without and >>>>>>> explicitly stating such, endorsing the work - or do we want a >>>>>>> resource >>>>>>> for those wanting to perform a port to a new platform - for the >>>>>>> announcement(s) that is. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes. ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe the existing porting page remains as a developer-focused page? >>>>>> It needs to be updated, of course, but maybe not as urgent. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then we also need a user-facing page about existing ports. Maybe that >>>>>> could be a new page in the /download directory? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is already a page which points to 3rd party software / packages: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/non_ASF.html >>>>> >>>>> Kay has created this to compensate the old distribution webpage which >>>>> was totally outdated. >>>>> >>>>> So, what about to extend this new page with a "Ports" section from >>>>> FreeBSD, Solaris, OS/2 and others? >>>>> >>>>>> For the announcement the user-facing one would be the most >>>>>> appropriate, yes? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think so. >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Morning All; >>>> >>>> Just checking in on this thread to see if there has been any consensus >>>> on how we should do this or if we should. As we are fast approaching >>>> release of 3.4.1 I would like to get this into the Release Notes. >>>> >>>> As a stated bore I believe that it is important to get the information >>>> out that these operating systems are not forgotten and that Apache >>>> OpenOffice is available. >>> >>> >>> >>> As I haven't seen any different let's add these OSs with a statement to >>> the >>> "non_ASF.html" webpage. >>> >> >> The announcement current links to: http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ >> >> Is that the wrong place? That URL is the top listing if someone >> searches Google for "openoffice ports. > > > Maybe not wrong but IMHO totally oudated since months and years and needs > also a clean-up. ;-) >
IMHO, It is almost always better to clean up (or replace) an existing page at a well-known URL than to create an entirely new page at a new URL. Why? Because the existing page is already linked to, both internally and externally. So if we think the new content is relevant to the purpose of the old webpage, e.g., information on ports, then we should keep the old URL for it. -Rob > I'll try something. > > Marcus > > > > >> I'm happy to change the announcement to point to: >> http://www.openoffice.org/download/non_ASF.html >> >> But we would need to get some content there. It is in the CMS, so >> anyone can edit it.
