Hi Marcus; I am OK with people asking for help but I don't appreciate getting spammed If you could please obfuscate my email address it would be better.
thanks, Pedro. ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Cc: rbirc...@apache.org > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: What to say in AOO 3.4.1 release announcement about the ports? > (BSD, Solaris, OS/2)? > > Am 08/18/2012 11:55 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: >> >> >> On 08/18/2012 09:53 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: >>> Am 08/18/2012 06:34 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): >>>> Am 08/18/2012 04:38 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): >>>>> Am 08/18/2012 04:19 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Marcus > (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Am 08/18/2012 02:48 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Marcus > (OOo)<marcus.m...@wtnet.de> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am 08/18/2012 06:38 AM, schrieb Keith N. > McKenna: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Marcus (OOo) wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Am 08/02/2012 02:12 AM, schrieb Rob > Weir: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:37 PM, > drew<d...@baseanswers.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 18:28 > -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at > 12:24 PM, drew >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > jensen<drewjensen.in...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-01 at > 09:09 -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kay; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did some basic > update to the FreeBSD porting site sometime >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.openoffice.org/porting/freebsd/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The site > doesn't seem linked from the top-level porting site >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would prefer to > spend my time on the code rather than on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announcement, > however feel free to mention explicitly the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> port. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make it > clear: we still have some cleanup to do but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> port is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fully operational > and FreeBSD users are fully aware that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on FreeBSD > releases. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedro. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pedro, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then for BSD it should > be enough to just point to the page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO, we should consolidate > all the porting links onto that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That way it gives one clear > place to link to in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> announcement, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also a single place we can > link to from other places in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, we should > probably eventually have a link to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> porting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page from the download > page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Rob >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hmmm - well, I'm just > getting around to looking at things for >>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>> evening. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at the page(s) now... > *chuckling*.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This might not be the right > place for what I thought was the >>>>>>>>>>>>> task - a >>>>>>>>>>>>> list of existing known ports > which are not part of the official >>>>>>>>>>>>> AOO >>>>>>>>>>>>> release regiment. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The porting page and it's > associated pages seem more about the >>>>>>>>>>>>> act of >>>>>>>>>>>>> creating a port, with >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.openoffice.org/porting/porting_overview.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.openoffice.org/porting/porting_implement.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> which starts off by pointing to > this page: >>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Porting_Efforts >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and that offers links to places > such as >>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.openoffice.org/udk/cpp/man/cpp_bridges.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So do we really want a page for > listing existing non-official >>>>>>>>>>>>> ports >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> are known, a simple information > service for our users without >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> explicitly stating such, > endorsing the work - or do we want a >>>>>>>>>>>>> resource >>>>>>>>>>>>> for those wanting to perform a > port to a new platform - for the >>>>>>>>>>>>> announcement(s) that is. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the existing porting page > remains as a developer-focused >>>>>>>>>>>> page? >>>>>>>>>>>> It needs to be updated, of course, > but maybe not as urgent. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Then we also need a user-facing > page about existing ports. Maybe >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> could be a new page in the > /download directory? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There is already a page which points to > 3rd party software / >>>>>>>>>>> packages: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.openoffice.org/download/non_ASF.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kay has created this to compensate the > old distribution webpage >>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>> was totally outdated. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, what about to extend this new page > with a "Ports" section >>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD, Solaris, OS/2 and others? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For the announcement the > user-facing one would be the most >>>>>>>>>>>> appropriate, yes? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think so. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Marcus >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Morning All; >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just checking in on this thread to see if > there has been any >>>>>>>>>> consensus >>>>>>>>>> on how we should do this or if we should. > As we are fast >>>>>>>>>> approaching >>>>>>>>>> release of 3.4.1 I would like to get this > into the Release Notes. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As a stated bore I believe that it is > important to get the >>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>> out that these operating systems are not > forgotten and that Apache >>>>>>>>>> OpenOffice is available. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As I haven't seen any different let's > add these OSs with a >>>>>>>>> statement to >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> "non_ASF.html" webpage. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The announcement current links to: >>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is that the wrong place? That URL is the top > listing if someone >>>>>>>> searches Google for "openoffice ports. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe not wrong but IMHO totally oudated since months > and years and >>>>>>> needs >>>>>>> also a clean-up. ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> IMHO, It is almost always better to clean up (or replace) > an existing >>>>>> page at a well-known URL than to create an entirely new > page at a new >>>>>> URL. Why? Because the existing page is already linked to, > both >>>>>> internally and externally. So if we think the new content > is relevant >>>>>> to the purpose of the old webpage, e.g., information on > ports, then we >>>>>> should keep the old URL for it. >>>>> >>>>> Sure. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe we can make a deal, so that everybody has a little task: >>>>> >>>>> - I'll clean-up the porting homepage (at least the starting > page) >>>>> - Drew is adding text for the ports to the other webpage >>>>> - I'll add this text also to the porting homepage >>>>> - and you just need to keep the link in the announcement ;-) >>>> >>>> I've updated the starting webpage at >>>> "http://www.openoffice.org/porting/index.html": >>> >>> Ahm, it's still in the stageing area: >>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/porting/index.html >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> >>>> @Maho,Pedro,Yuri,Nicolas: >>>> >>>> Like stated with the other ports I would like to list your name and > mail >>>> address (if available, the Apache addresses): >>>> >>>> - OpenSolaris by Adfinis SyGroup AG (Nicolas Christener) >>>> - Solaris (Sparc and x86) by Adfinis SyGroup AG (Nicolas > Christener) >>>> - FreeBSD by Pedro Giffuni / Maho Nakata >>>> - OS/2 by Yuri Dario >>>> >>>> Is this OK for you? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Marcus >> >> Marcus, on this last part...should Raphael Bircher be added for the >> Solaris ports as well? But, we need to hear from both of them. >> >> Nice job on this update by the way. > > Hm, I don't know how much he is involved with the port. > > @Raphael: > What do you think? > > Marcus >
